On Monday 12 February 2007 06:42, Tim wrote: >Les: >>>> And like the business with PCB's the opposite of that coin is DDT, >>>> which you can actually eat without it hurting you, but due to some >>>> activists, its use has been banned in many countries of the world, > >Tim: >>> You're arguing that the genetic effects, including hereditary ones, >>> scientifically observed are false? I don't think I'd go along with >>> that. Whether it's worse or better than other poisons, is another >>> matter (whether that be on the intended prey, or the side effects). >>> Poison is poison... > >jdow: >> Scientifically observed by who? The source Norm cited is ridiculous >> pseudo-scientific double-talk better associated with the Greens and >> PETA freakazoids. > >I didn't use that information for reference purposes. DDT got abandoned >by many countries. They have their own scientific establishments to >make such decisions (observe the effects, rate one poison against >another, et al), and don't all base their decisions on any one >particular paper (e.g. the one you poo pooh). While some do err on the >side of caution and monitor what other countries do, they don't all >follow blindly, and some will abjectly disregard another country's point >of view on certain matters. > >>From time to time I hear about DDT in one way or another (ban it, don't, >why it was banned, etc.). I'm yet to see a scientific expert stand up >and say the reasons for it stopping being used, or the way it was used >was changed, was a load of FUD, or even anyone else try. The facts, in the case of DDT, are irrefutable. It causes a calcium take-up problem in our surviving dinosaurs, aka birds, so their eggshells are so thin the egg cannot survive a 1/2" drop from the birds rear into the nest. We, yeah MAN and his DDT damned near did what the asteroid strike in the Yucatan 65 million years ago didn't quite do, kill the last of the dinosaurs. And, FWIW, between DDT and the PCB's, we have nearly killed all the frogs, which depend on a bone in their penis to get the job of making new frogs done. That bone is, in the few survivors taken from the effected areas, so shrunken or missing entirely that that frog WILL be the last of his family. >> Grow some brains, boy. > >Try growing some manners, cunt! And you are out of line, Tim. Way out. >Yes, I use that insult on purpose. I've read the rest of your insults >and rantings on the thread, and your prior activities on this list, and >it seems an entirely accurate description of your behaviour. > >-- >(This box runs FC5, my others run FC4 & FC6, in case that's > important to the thread.) > >Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. >I read messages from the public lists. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
