Hi All, forgive my formatting, or lack there of and jumping in on this thread the way I did. That guy could have any number of "real" reasons to have been so terribly wronged by Fedora, but let us all keep our composure and gratitude that we have for Fedora, for what ever reasons we have, and not lower ourselves to the level of one not befitting of any of the helpful community that I have watched grow here on this forum. From some of the smartest, clear down to the some of the guys like me, I have seen a slice of the human condition grow into almost a triage ward in a hospital where "Help" was for breakfast, lunch, dinner and even a low burned midnight candle to see a snack. What you all have created, could never be recreated or matched in it's unique greatness. The right amount of humor and the right mix of greatness and knowledge from each of your individual personalities requires no proof that the best have gathered to give and receive. I salute you all, where ever you may be and hope we still have just a few more songs left in us. One song is an appl called LMMS, a sort of music studio. I know there are a few of you music folks out their. It looks like I can only install it from svn. Isn't there another way to get it? And does svn do some kind of auto update? This install looks pretty easy, hence my apprehension. It looks like everything is ready to go, save the ./config fudging for 64 bit. Others that looked this easy were usually laced with quicksand. Any thoughts or gut instincts are greatly appreciated. George Hare