On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 11:33 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:15:49 -0500, > Lyvim Xaphir <knightmerc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 23:37 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 22:20:23 -0500, > > > Lyvim Xaphir <knightmerc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > Phil is a United States citizen. As such he would not have been put in > > > > Gitmo. Club Gitmo is reserved for non-US combatants; as such they do > > > > not fall under the purview of the US Constitution. > > > > > > Bush claims to be able to declare anyone an emeny combatant and then be > > > able have done pretty whatever he wants to you. > > > > What US citizens have been declared enemy combatants? > > Jose Padilla. Though he wasn't sent to Gitmo, he was just held without formal > charges being filed for several years while being tortured. Eventually he > was charged with different crimes than what the government had previously > said they could charge him with. At least his case finally got into the court > system. (The Bush administration wanted to avoid a definitive ruling in his > case and agreed to transfer him when it looked like they might lose.) Nothing beats "Blind Justice", huh? To think I was a Republican for almost 30 years. I might declare myself to be a "Luddite" and go find a safe cave to live in until it's over. Herbs and berries, blah. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net ================================================