Re: How NSA access was built into Windows

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On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 09:54 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 22:27 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 01:10 -0500, Claude Jones wrote:
> > > On Tue January 16 2007 12:49 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > > > Selinux=0 may completely evacuate all selinux code from the boot
> > > > process.  Then, on the other hand, it may not.
> > > 
> > > Maybe you guys are thinking about this all wrong. Suppose that Selinux is 
> > > really a diversion. By forcing the question of mandatory access controls at 
> > > the kernel level, there's a team of specialists being trained who are 
> > > mastering in great depth, the detailed minutiae of how each daemon they 
> > > program for, functions at the lowest levels. The goal is to create the 
> > > specialist team that knows every hook, every detail, of low level operations 
> > > of all major sofware running in the OS. 
> > > 
> > > Maybe I'm smoking too many cigars...
> > 
> > Maybe it's Beagle? <evil cackles> That damn thing is a mystery to
> > everyone on this list. Yet, it's still alive! Go figure. Ric
> ----
> just in case it isn't obvious - the point of beagle is to provide a
> ready in-depth searchable index of all text that has passed your way, be
> it via e-mail, documents or web. It's ambitious, imperfect but a dfe
> (damn fine effort).

Exactly! That's my point. If someone did have some way to enter my
machine, beagle would be the perfect 'snitch' on everything one has ever
done, written, visited, dnloaded and logged. All in one swell foop.
According to 'top', it's pretty aggressive in getting it's job done. I
was just providing some humor to the SElinux issue by pointing it out,
as an alternative or addition to the "conspiracy" theories. :) Ric   

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