Re: Blocking Spam

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Charles Curley wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 12:46:46AM +1030, Tim wrote:
>> Tim:
> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, the fix for this one is simple, install perl-Archive-Tar.
>> 
>> Hmm, well that fixes the installation on FC5.  FC6 has a different
>> error:
>> 
>> Can't locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in @INC (@INC
>> contains: /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/s ite_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux -thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/pe rl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/ lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_per l/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thr ead-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl 5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7 /us r/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/ve ndor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8) at /usr/bin/sa-update line 92.
>> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/sa-update line 92.
>> 
>> How do you work out what package it wants to fulfill its needs?
> 
> It says, "Can't locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in @INC..." So it's looking
> for a perl module called "LWP::UserAgent" somewhere in the list of
> directories that constitute the array @INC (short for "include"). A
> quick look at line 92 of sa-update shows that it says:
> 
> eval { use LWP::UserAgent; };
> 
> And the comment just above indicates that the reason the author used
> the eval trick was to bypass RPM dependency checking.

Yes, lovely of them to do so.  I am almost curious enough to trawl
through the SA buglist to see if there is a reason given for doing
this.  It seems that they don't want to pull in the deps required for
sa-update into the RPMS that they ship (they as in the SpamAssassin
developers).  But really they should split sa-update into a separate
rpm if they want its dependencies kept separate.

> Next question: do you really need it? I don't have it installed, and
> sa-update runs and gets updates without complaining. But I don't see
> how sa-update can get updates without it.

Uninstalling it causes the same error as Tim reported here.

> Another question is, how do you get it? A bit of checking with yum
> indicates that it isn't available from core, extras or livna. So you
> need cpan2rpm so you can pull it in from cpan.org and RPM-ize it for
> installation.

It's in core.  You can install it like so:

sudo yum install 'perl(LWP::UserAgent)'

The 'perl(LWP::UserAgent)' thing is handy once you know how rpm does
perl deps.  Unfortunately it requires a little familiarity with perl
before it's at all obvious I think.

I'll try to file this bug so that the Fedora packages can get fixed.
Ideally it'd get corrected upstream, but I'm not going to file a bug
there without investing more time trying to figure out why they're
intentionally working against rpm's dep checking (and I don't have the
time to do that now).

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