At the risk of sounding dumb: How old is the phono-player? The reason I'm asking is because some of the older players have a different style of pre-amplifier and require a special input. (long time since I dealt with this... I think it was called a "ceramic input") Without the right input on your amplifier it would sound very faint or possibly not be audible at all. Try another sound source on that input to see if it works. George P.S. Free advice is guaranteed to be worth every penny you paid for it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com