On Friday 01 December 2006 04:47, Anne Wilson wrote: I put the list back in the to: line, maybe someone else can decode where I'm going all aglay here. >On Friday 01 December 2006 06:20, you wrote: >> root@coyote ~]# mv ~/.config/menus ~/config/menus.BAK >> mv: cannot move `/root/.config/menus' to `/root/config/menus.BAK': No >> such file or directory > >Missing dot? 'to ~/.config/menus.BAK' > Humm, looked it up in the history and you are right. But it didn't make any difference, and the menu's own editor is a no-op when you right click on it. It doesn't even turn the mouse pointer into a busy pointer. In /root/.config, re-running kbuildsycocoa --noincremental does not generate a new menus subdir, a tree or ls listing returns: [root@coyote .config]# tree . |-- gtk-2.0 | `-- gtkfilechooser `-- menus.BAK 2 directories, 1 file [root@coyote .config]# ls gtk-2.0 menus.BAK [root@coyote .config]# And menus.BAK is an empty directory. I suspect I'm barking up the wrong tree here, and the 3.5.5 version of kde has moved its K-menu file. Now, trying to get creative here, I just did this at 9:48 localtime: root@coyote ~]# kbuildsycoca --noincremental kbuildsycoca running... [root@coyote ~]# ls -laR|grep 'Dec 1'|grep kde drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Dec 1 01:55 kdesktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 384 Dec 1 01:55 kdewallet.kwl -rw------- 1 root root 4937 Dec 1 09:48 kdeglobals -rw------- 1 root root 244 Dec 1 01:55 kdesktoprc drwx------ 5 root root 4096 Dec 1 09:36 kde -rw------- 1 root root 163619 Dec 1 09:36 .kde.index -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1317 Dec 1 09:36 .kde.index.ids [root@coyote ~]# So kdeglobals is the only file carrying that timestamp. Now to find it: [root@coyote Desktop]# ls -l `locate kdeglobals` -rw------- 1 502 502 3589 May 30 2002 /home/elmer/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals -rw------- 1 gene gene 3630 Nov 19 22:53 /home/gene/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals -rw------- 1 502 502 3589 May 30 09:51 /root/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals <--this one? Nope. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1253 Sep 30 17:08 /usr/share/config/kdeglobals [root@coyote Desktop]# But, why has the timestamp been incremented, and why does it look as if it has nothing to do with K-menus when looked at with less? And I just used up that cup of coffee's IQ enhancement effect. AKA I'm stumped again. I feel like I should revert about 68 years and holler "Mommy, I want my kmenus back again! Now!" So if anyone else has any insight to share, share away! -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.