Re: amandas group membership in FC6?

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Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 25 November 2006 11:05, David G. Miller wrote:
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Greetings;

Despite the fact that the user 'amanda' is a member of the group
'disk', all compilations and new files generated by the user amanda
seem to be owned by amanda:amanda instead of the expected amanda:disk.

The end result is that many of my backup operations are failing
because the amanda utility doesn't have perms to delete or write to
files actually owned by amanda:disk.

I just went thru all the directory trees amanda needs to access and
chowned everything back the way its supposed to be, but then I built
the 20061124 tarball just now, and everything is still owned by

amanda:amanda.

>From my  /etc/group file:

disk:x:6:root,amanda

So I blew it away, called up KUsr and verified that amanda was indeed
a member of the group disk.  Even deleted the user and re-added it and
made sure this new copy of amanda was a member of the group disk.

Then as "amanda", I unpacked it again and rebuilt it, but I still have
the
same problem.  Because none of the files are owned by amanda:disk, the
end result is several megs of dead, can't do a thing code that I'd
just as well not bother with the 'make install'.

Anything that amanda has touched over the last 4 days since I started
running it again has been converted to being owned by amanda:amanda,
and if the file existed, and was to be deleted as part of the
housekeeping, was not because the old file was owned by amanda:disk. So my backups are being slowly trashed because the indice files are
not updatable.

Whats the deal with FC6 and its owner:group handling?  Am I setting up
the
user wrong or what?
You probably had the default of "Create private group for user" still
checked when you created the user.  When that's checked, the user gets
created and the default group for the user is set to a new group with
the same name as the user.  You should still be able to change the
default group to "disk" for your amanda user.  I run Gnome so I can't
help you with the details.

Useing kde-3.5.5, I didn't notice that option in the tools supplied. There was Kusr, and something called user manager. But the first time I just ran 'adduser amanda'.
See Anne's recent post and correction. system-config-users lets you manipulate group membership, etc.
Dumb question: why didn't you just do a "yum install amanda
amanda-client"?  It's much easier than building amanda and manually
setting up the user, etc.

2 reasons,
1) whats in the repos is often a year or more out of date, and due to the restrictions of the rpm packaging system usually has permission problems that can only be sorted correctly by nuking the rpm and following the build instructions to install the tarball. This is the first time I've had problems installing a tarball in 6 years!

2) I'm one of the canaries in this particular coal mine, I make and install the new snapshots as often as Jean-Louis releases them, so if there are any gotcha's I can report back the next day on their lists. Thats one of my contributions to your having the worlds best backup software.
I like my backup software to be VERY stable so I'll put up with whatever Fedora decides is sufficiently stable to include in their distro.

With regard to this problem:
[amanda@coyote GenesAmandaHelper-0.5]$ ls -l /mnt/hdb/home
total 36
drwxr-xr-x 21     33 disk   4096 Nov  8 23:37 amanda
drwx------  3 amanda amanda 4096 Nov  9  2004 elladene
drwx------ 14    502    502 4096 Nov 12  2002 elmer
drwx------ 36 gene   gene   4096 Nov  9 16:32 gene
drwx------  2 root   root   4096 Oct 22  2002 lost+found
drwx------  3    503    503 4096 Nov 21  2002 roadrunner
drwxr-xr-x 18 gene   gene   4096 Aug 14 03:42 shop
drwxr-xr-x 19   1000   1000 4096 Aug 13  2004 shop-gene
drwxr-xr-x  6   1002   1002 4096 Dec 14  2005 spamd
find provides a mechanism for finding all of the files with a particular UID or GID and then doing whatever you'd like with them. Something along the lines of:

find / -uid 33 -exec chown amanda:disk {} \; -print

The predicate -gid can be used with numeric group IDs. If you want to confirm the changes, use -ok instead of -exec.

Cheers,
Dave

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