James Wilkinson wrote: > ulrich wrote: >> I untagged all openoffice-files before starting an update by Pirut. >> What happend: Pirut installed Openoffice and killed certain openoffice >> files in my /opt branch. Even worse, Pirut installed Openoffice in a >> different language. > > What *were* you updating? You should be able to get this information out > of /var/log/yum.log. If it was something that depended on a particular > version of OpenOffice, then yes, Pirut should have upgraded them to give > you a consistent system. So this is the log: Nov 17 12:08:32 Updated: parted.i386 1.7.1-17.fc5 Nov 17 12:52:46 Installed: bind-libs.i386 30:9.3.3-0.2.rc2.fc5 Nov 17 12:52:49 Installed: bind.i386 30:9.3.3-0.2.rc2.fc5 Nov 17 12:52:50 Installed: caching-nameserver.i386 30:9.3.3-0.2.rc2.fc5 Nov 17 12:52:53 Installed: NetworkManager.i386 0.6.4-1.fc5 Nov 17 12:52:54 Installed: NetworkManager-glib.i386 0.6.4-1.fc5 Nov 17 12:53:44 Installed: evolution.i386 2.6.3-1.fc5.5 Nov 18 10:10:07 Entfernt: openoffice.org-impress Nov 18 10:10:13 Entfernt: openoffice.org-graphicfilter Nov 18 10:10:14 Entfernt: openoffice.org-javafilter Nov 18 10:10:15 Entfernt: openoffice.org-base Nov 18 10:10:16 Entfernt: openoffice.org-pyuno Nov 18 10:10:17 Entfernt: openoffice.org-math Nov 18 10:10:20 Entfernt: openoffice.org-draw Nov 18 10:10:21 Entfernt: openoffice.org-emailmerge Nov 18 10:10:22 Entfernt: openoffice.org-calc Nov 18 10:10:24 Entfernt: openoffice.org-xsltfilter Nov 18 10:10:25 Entfernt: openoffice.org-writer Nov 19 19:16:57 Updated: openoffice.org-pyuno.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 19 19:17:28 Updated: openoffice.org-writer.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 19 19:17:56 Installed: gv.i386 3.6.2-1.fc5 Nov 19 19:18:01 Installed: fig2ps.noarch 1.3.5-2.fc5 Nov 19 19:18:23 Updated: openoffice.org-math.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 19 19:18:30 Updated: openoffice.org-javafilter.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 19 19:18:35 Updated: openoffice.org-xsltfilter.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 19 19:21:54 Updated: TeXmacs.i386 1.0.6.6-1.fc5 Nov 19 19:22:35 Updated: openoffice.org-impress.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 19 19:22:55 Updated: openoffice.org-draw.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 19 19:22:58 Updated: openoffice.org-emailmerge.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 19 19:23:29 Updated: openoffice.org-calc.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 19 19:23:47 Updated: aumix.i386 2.8-10.fc5 Nov 19 19:23:52 Updated: openoffice.org-graphicfilter.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 19 19:24:06 Updated: openoffice.org-base.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 20 19:25:54 Erased: gmime-sharp Nov 20 19:25:55 Erased: ekiga Nov 20 19:25:59 Erased: evolution-data-server Nov 20 19:26:06 Erased: tsclient Nov 20 19:26:09 Erased: control-center Nov 20 19:26:24 Erased: gnome-netstatus Nov 20 19:26:28 Erased: gnome-pilot Nov 20 19:26:31 Erased: gsf-sharp Nov 20 19:26:32 Erased: gnome-pilot-devel Nov 20 19:26:33 Erased: gtk-sharp2 Nov 20 19:26:36 Erased: gnome-volume-manager Nov 20 19:26:48 Erased: gnome-applet-music Nov 20 19:26:58 Erased: tomboy Nov 20 19:27:00 Erased: evolution-webcal Nov 20 19:27:02 Erased: gnome-pilot-conduits Nov 20 19:27:04 Erased: evolution-data-server-devel Nov 20 19:27:08 Erased: libgail-gnome Nov 20 19:27:09 Erased: evolution Nov 20 19:27:13 Erased: gnome-panel-devel Nov 20 19:27:15 Erased: gnome-session Nov 20 19:27:17 Erased: gnome-panel Nov 20 19:27:30 Erased: gnopernicus Nov 20 19:27:34 Erased: nautilus-sendto Nov 20 19:27:36 Erased: gaim Nov 20 19:27:42 Erased: gnome-utils Nov 20 19:27:49 Erased: gnome-applet-netspeed Nov 20 19:27:53 Erased: gnome-applets Nov 20 21:34:30 Installiert: evolution-data-server.i386 1.6.3-1.fc5.2 Nov 20 21:36:10 Installiert: gnome-panel.i386 2.14.3-1.fc5 Nov 20 21:36:13 Installiert: libopensync.i386 0.19-1.fc5 Nov 20 21:36:14 Installiert: libgalago.i386 0.5.2-3.fc5 Nov 20 21:36:15 Installiert: galago-daemon.i386 0.5.1-1.fc5 Nov 20 21:36:16 Installiert: libopensync-devel.i386 0.19-1.fc5 Nov 20 21:36:17 Installiert: libopensync-plugin-evolution2.i386 0.19-1.fc5 Nov 20 21:36:34 Installiert: gnome-pilot.i386 2.0.13-7.fc5.6 Nov 20 21:37:19 Installiert: evolution.i386 2.6.3-1.fc5.5 Nov 20 21:37:24 Installiert: gtk-sharp2.i386 2.8.2-1 Nov 20 21:37:25 Installiert: gsl.i386 1.7-1.2.1 Nov 20 21:37:28 Installiert: bogofilter.i386 1.0.2-1.fc5 Nov 20 21:37:29 Installiert: gpgme.i386 1.1.2-4.fc5 Nov 20 21:37:30 Installiert: libetpan.i386 0.48-1.fc5 Nov 20 21:37:33 Installiert: sylpheed-claws.i386 2.6.0-1.fc5 Nov 20 21:37:34 Installiert: libopensync-plugin-evolution2-devel.i386 0.19-1.fc5 Nov 20 21:37:35 Installiert: planner-eds.i386 0.13-4.4 Nov 20 21:37:43 Installiert: evolution-webcal.i386 2.4.1-3.4 Nov 20 21:37:45 Installiert: evolution-bogofilter.i386 0.2.0-3.fc5 Nov 20 21:37:50 Installiert: evolution-data-server-devel.i386 1.6.3-1.fc5.2 Nov 20 21:37:52 Installiert: evolution-connector.i386 2.6.3-2.fc5 Nov 20 21:37:53 Installiert: evolution-sharp.i386 0.10.2-9.5 Nov 20 21:37:54 Installiert: eds-feed.i386 0.5.0-2.fc5 Nov 20 21:37:55 Installiert: sylpheed-claws-plugins-vcalendar.i386 2.6.0-1.fc5 Nov 20 21:37:59 Installiert: evolution-devel.i386 2.6.3-1.fc5.5 Nov 20 21:38:00 Installiert: nautilus-sendto.i386 0.4-7.2 Nov 21 17:15:55 Entfernt: openoffice.org-impress Nov 21 17:16:00 Entfernt: openoffice.org-graphicfilter Nov 21 17:16:02 Entfernt: openoffice.org-javafilter Nov 21 17:16:03 Entfernt: openoffice.org-base Nov 21 17:16:05 Entfernt: openoffice.org-pyuno Nov 21 17:16:06 Entfernt: openoffice.org-math Nov 21 17:16:08 Entfernt: openoffice.org-draw Nov 21 17:16:10 Entfernt: openoffice.org-emailmerge Nov 21 17:16:11 Entfernt: openoffice.org-calc Nov 21 17:16:13 Entfernt: openoffice.org-xsltfilter Nov 21 17:16:15 Entfernt: openoffice.org-writer Nov 22 11:53:56 Updated: openssh.i386 4.3p2-4.11.fc5 Nov 22 11:54:19 Updated: GConf2.i386 2.14.0-2.fc5 Nov 22 11:54:21 Updated: openoffice.org-pyuno.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:54:22 Updated: boost.i386 1.33.1-9.fc5 Nov 22 11:54:30 Updated: openoffice.org-writer.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:54:31 Updated: GConf2-devel.i386 2.14.0-2.fc5 Nov 22 11:54:38 Updated: openoffice.org-math.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:54:39 Updated: openoffice.org-xsltfilter.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:55:10 Updated: boost-devel.i386 1.33.1-9.fc5 Nov 22 11:55:16 Updated: openoffice.org-impress.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:55:20 Updated: elinks.i386 0.11.0-2.4 Nov 22 11:55:22 Updated: openoffice.org-draw.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:55:27 Updated: openoffice.org-calc.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:55:27 Updated: openoffice.org-emailmerge.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:55:28 Updated: openoffice.org-javafilter.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:55:29 Updated: openssh-server.i386 4.3p2-4.11.fc5 Nov 22 11:55:31 Updated: openssh-askpass.i386 4.3p2-4.11.fc5 Nov 22 11:55:32 Updated: openoffice.org-graphicfilter.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:55:34 Updated: openoffice.org-base.i386 1:2.0.2-5.19.2 Nov 22 11:55:35 Updated: openssh-clients.i386 4.3p2-4.11.fc5 Entfernt = erased (did you notice the mix in languages here!) After installing fc5 from cd's and having installed some other packages not available through yum, I initiated a general update via pirut except for my openoffice installation. Up to now, I was not able to get the preset OO-files untagged, when starting pirut. So, where do I set the taggs for "my" packages permanently? I am somehow missing a switch for excluding packages from being updated. > > As for the /opt branch, do you mean it *removed* the files, or it stopped > them working? Were they installed from an RPM or from a tarball / > installer? Pirut removed files from the /opt/OO/program/.. directory! They have been purged! For instance the swriter, the scalc and some twenty others vanished! > > Given that Pirut was updating OpenOffice, if your /opt version was an RPM > then the Fedora version almost certainly looked like an update to your > /opt version, and it would remove it. That would be considered a > packaging conflict. Most inexplainable pirut even removed filed from an umounted device! With me /opt resides on an extra device which had been unmounted before the update! (I regard this to be a serious problem). > > If the OpenOffice in /opt came from a tarball or installer, then the > Fedora OO.o RPMs shouldn't be touching /opt. OO came as rpms, I used rpm -Uhv --prefix=/opt/... *.rpm so OO packages are relocatable! > > If the new Fedora RPMs stopped your version of OpenOffice.org from > working, that may be due to how you included the /opt subdirectories in > your PATH variable -- the /opt OpenOffice was finding Fedora versions of > files before it found /opt versions. > So this is my echo $PATH: /usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bi n:/home/ulrich/bin Nothing like opt. I use absolute paths for starting OO > In any case, we'll need clarity as to precisely what was happening before > we can tell whether it was a bug or the program working a way you didn't > expect. > > I can't see how Pirut could be expected to know which language packs you > use in software it doesn't know about... I can't explain that either. I use OO in German with German and English dics etc. After the pirut update OO came in English! > James. Ulrich
