On Wed November 22 2006 12:59 am, Gene Heskett wrote: > XaraEx looks like it was the thing, till I found that once the text has > been planted, it appears not to be movable for setting up a pleasing > composition. > > Do we have such a tool that can write text and manipulate its size and > position and then save in a png/jpg/etc image format capable of being > loaded into 4L-gui? I want to write cd/dvd labels. XaraEx can do this. I just made a pretty complex connections diagram of a multipoint international webcast with 4 VTC's and multiple switchers and all kinds of other objects in it, all labeled. You have to use the selection tool to select a text box, which will become 'highlighted' by having four markers placed around it - then hovering your cursor around different regions of the text box allows for different options, including resizing and deformations, and positioning -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA