Re: Hard Drive Error Disk or Motherboard?

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Just got home ffrom work and thought I'd check over my server.

I noticed in the messages I am still getting errors.

The /dev/hdc disk is the one that I was having trouble with however I
am getting errors on another disk I was using for backing up the data
from the faulty drive to.

Nov 21 16:32:17 test-fc6 smartd[2484]: Device: /dev/hdd, 1 Currently
unreadable (pending) sectors
Nov 21 16:32:17 test-fc6 smartd[2484]: Device: /dev/hdd, 1 Offline
uncorrectable sectors
Nov 21 17:02:16 test-fc6 smartd[2484]: Device: /dev/hdc, 1 Currently
unreadable (pending) sectors
Nov 21 17:02:17 test-fc6 smartd[2484]: Device: /dev/hdd, 1 Currently
unreadable (pending) sectors
Nov 21 17:02:17 test-fc6 smartd[2484]: Device: /dev/hdd, 1 Offline
uncorrectable sectors
Nov 21 17:11:44 test-fc6 kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
Nov 21 17:11:44 test-fc6 kernel: EXT3 FS on hdc2, internal journal
Nov 21 17:11:44 test-fc6 kernel: EXT3-fs: hdc2: 5 orphan inodes deleted
Nov 21 17:11:44 test-fc6 kernel: EXT3-fs: recovery complete.
Nov 21 17:11:44 test-fc6 kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with
ordered data mode.

Can anyone explain a way totest these disk so I can be sure they are
not corrupt.

Should I use fsck or testdisk? Also what syntax would provide best
results, or are there any better utils?




On 21/11/06, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 15:00, Paul Ward wrote:
>I did a bios reset this morning to try and iron out any strange
>settings but as suspected it made no difference.
>
>Here is the lspci list in my box
>
>lspci
>00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo
> KT266/A/333] 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7
> [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP] 00:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant
> CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
>00:06.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and
>Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
>00:06.4 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and
>Audio Decoder [IR Port] (rev 05)
>00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev
> 05) 00:08.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port
> (rev 05) 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX
>[Cyclone] (rev 30)
>00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1
>Controller (rev 80)
>00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1
>Controller (rev 80)
>00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1
>Controller (rev 80)
>00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
>00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
>00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
>VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX
>5200] (rev a1)
>
An even older via chipset. It would be suspect until proven otherwise.

>On 21/11/06, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Tuesday 21 November 2006 12:41, Paul Ward wrote:
>> >Thanks guys for the in depth knowledge of ide drives, I had no idea
>> > it made that much difference myself but then I guess that is why I
>> > am having problems.
>> >
>> >To throw some more information on the fault, as I said I ended up
>> >using my spare test drive with FC6, this has been a trooper and
>> > allows me to keep working.
>> >
>> >I decided to plug the troublesome drive into IDE1 as master, no other
>> >drives were connected and I had the same issues thus I thought
>> > proving the drive was playing up, but then I had the Idea of adding
>> > it as a master of IDE2 and using the test drive as the master IDE1,
>> > everything seems fine, I can mount the troublesome drive and see the
>> > data, I can even read and write to it???? Does this mean my IDE1
>> > controller is at fault?? if so I guess it must be related to the
>> > chipsset / drive make?
>>
>> That I dunno about, but I can relate that I have one box, with a
>> Mach-Speed mobo in it, that flat doesn't like an attached /dev/hdb
>> under any wireing circumstances.  If I hook up a drive as /dev/hdb,
>> both drives will have trashed filesystems shortly.  But since its
>> bulletproof with just the main drive, and an older dvd-rw as /dev/hdc,
>> and its main job is to run my milling machine, thats how its running.
>> Kubuntu-6.06 on it, running an older HEAD of emc2.  Works fine.  In
>> this case, and based on nearly 60 years of watching things electronic
>> go bump in the night, my bet is on a buggy ide chipset.  I changed the
>> drive cable twice, interchanged the drive twice and finally just gave
>> up since even the smallest of those two drives was 20x what it needed
>> to do its job.
>>
>> Here's an lspci from that box:
>> root@shop:~# lspci
>> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [KM400/A]
>> Chipset Host Bridge
>> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
>> 0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB
>> 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
>> 0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB
>> 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
>> 0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB
>> 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
>> 0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
>> 0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
>> 0000:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
>> VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
>> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
>> VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
>> 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102
>> [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
>> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34
>> [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
>> root@shop:~#
>>
>> Do you have anything that matches the above list in your box?
>>
>> >On 21/11/06, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> On Tuesday 21 November 2006 09:41, Tim wrote:
>> >> >Tim:
>> >> >>> IDE/ATA doesn't use termination, SCSI does.
>> >> >
>> >> >Mel:
>> >> >> I don't believe that is true. I believe they both use
>> >> >> termination.
>> >> >
>> >> >While from a technical standpoint, there's a standard impedance
>> >> > that loads the line, so it is "terminated".  There's nothing the
>> >> > user does to the drive that changes it.  So I should have said it
>> >> > doesn't have any user-set termination options.
>> >> >
>> >> >Electrically, it doesn't matter whether the master or slave is at
>> >> > the end of the line.  Neither's different in that regard.
>> >>
>> >> Yes it does, only the drive jumpered as a slave has this turned
>> >> off. For that reason it should always be on the middle connector,
>> >> with the drive set as master on the end.  Yeah you can set it up
>> >> bass-ackwards. And I'll say we told you so when your data gets
>> >> fubared.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers, Gene
>> >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>> >>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>> >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>> >> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
>> >> message by Gene Heskett are:
>> >> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
>> >>
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>> --
>> Cheers, Gene
>> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
>> message by Gene Heskett are:
>> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.

--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene Heskett are:
Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.



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