Re: FC5 -> FC6 my experience

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Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 20:50 +0100, Roo wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:42:44 -0400, Michael Wiktowy wrote:

The i586 bug is already known about.

BZ#?
Did you follow up on it in the -devel list -before- the release?

The problem is not with "binary drivers". The problem is with the faulty
Fedora install... one of many I've had. The post was an immediate report
on the installation/upgrade of an FC5 system to FC6. Summary: about the
only thing I can say for FC6, is that it's not as crap as FC5. For those
not in the know, FC5:

Yeah, calling Fedora crap will surely get the attention of the devs to
your reports. Why didn't I think about it?

Broke my sound card. It was never fixed... had to get a new one.

Works just fine here. [TM]
(On ~20 different machines ranging from a 10 y/o laptop to 2 way dual
core workstations and 4 way dual core servers)

Broke my graphics card. The GTK developers made sure that anything after
GTK 2.6 is so slow as to be laughable. I needed a new graphics card just
to make my machine remotely usable. Never fixed -- unlikely to be fixed
since GTK gets slower with every release. BTW: The old graphics card
worked just fine under Win XP and Qt.

Works just fine here. [TM]
See above.

Broke my USB broadband modem (this was eventually fixed).

All USB devices work just fine here [TM].
(Printers, palm, bluetooth, usbdisks, joysticks, scanners, etc)

All of these were dutifully recorded in bugzilla, and with the exception
of the broadband modem all were left to rot. Not forgetting the legion of
SELinux problems that I encountered, recorded in detail, only to have them
ignored and remain unfixed for two major release at least (privoxy...
yes... I'm looking in your direction).

As shocking as it sounds, the Fedora devs are -not- your employees and
are -not- yours to command.
Yes, some bugs are left for dead and it's -your- job to try to get the
devs attention if you want them fixed. (Or, better yet, report the
problem upstream and try to help the devs help you - Gee, now that's a
novel idea!)

On the other hand, you can always bitch and moan. It'll sure get you
places.

Oh, and BTW: if you are going to accuse people of writing snotty posts...
you should probably avoid doing it yourself, and looking like a silly
hypocrite.


Here's a question for you:
If Fedora is pure crap (in your eyes), -why- are -you- still using it?

- Gilboa

Well at least you've had a good experience. I too am finding it frustrating. I've put in quite a bit of my spare time into testing, and out of 12 bug reports submitted, 7 are still at the new state. I get the feeling people are too busy to deal with the volume of bug reports. Or perhaps my bug reports are too vague due to a lack of knowledge in a particular area. Or perhaps bugzilla is the wrong place to put reports. What ever the reason, I feel like screaming, but think no one will hear. I hope one day to try out FC6 but at the moment I can't get past the installer. Take a look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=207270

I would have thought this kind of bug would have been a show stopper. Anyway, it certainly is a show stopper now. I'll have to wait for a respin and hope someone with the right knowledge get's enough time to take a look at this bug.

Russell




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