Tim: >> Maybe you should have learnt it like we did, instead: I *before* E, >> except after C. Bob Goodwin: > Or when sounded like "A" as in neighbor and neigh. I can't really recall. Somewhere I have a small rule book about this, but heck knows where it is. Mum's an English teacher, but I wouldn't ask her for advice about it, she's a POM. > Or is that not true in AustralEnglish? It's called Orstrayan, thank you very much... ;-) (No, not really. For the uninitiated, that's a joke - based on a common appalling pronunciation of the word "Australian," in Australia.) -- (Currently running FC4, in case that's important to the thread) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.