On Monday, Sep 25th 2006 at 12:07 -0600, quoth Frank Cox: =>I do this: => => su -c "/sbin/service sendmail restart" =>Password: =>Shutting down sm-client: [ OK ] =>Shutting down sendmail: [ OK ] =>Starting sendmail: [ OK ] =>Starting sm-client: [ OK ] => =>And then this: =>/sbin/service sendmail status =>/etc/rc.d/init.d/functions: line 324: /var/run/sendmail.pid: Permission denied =>sendmail dead but subsys locked => =>What's wrong? Let me make one small suggestion. There are too many variables here. I hate su unless it's run as su -. For starters, su - and then run service sendmail stop Then make sure that /var/run/sendmail.pid is really and truly gone. Then run service sendmail start and tell us what happens. After all that, if it works, please never use su the way you described above. At the very least use su - -c etc... Also one last question: Are you running selinux and could that be a cause of your permission issues? i.e., is sendmail running as something other than root in the first place? -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net