Fedora Users — Re: FC4

On 21/09/06, Robin Laing <Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alastair McKinley wrote:
>
>
> On 20/09/06, *Robin Laing* <Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto: Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     Paul Howarth wrote:
>      > Alastair McKinley wrote:
>      >
>      >> On 9/20/06, Paul Howarth < paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>      >>
>      >>>
>      >>> Alastair McKinley wrote:
>      >>> > On 9/20/06, David G. Miller < dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto: dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>      >>> >>
>      >>> >> "Alastair McKinley" < amckinley03@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto: amckinley03@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>      >>> >>
>      >>> >> >Hi Dave,
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >Thanks for your help.  This is what I've got:
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >[root@d6173 alastair]# rpm -q --whatprovides
>      >>> >> >/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/cElementTree.so
>      >>> >> >python-elementtree-1.2.6-4
>      >>> >> >[root@d6173 alastair]# rpm -q --whatprovides `which python`
>      >>> >> >python-2.4.3-8.FC4
>      >>> >> >[root@d6173 alastair]# rpm -q --whatprovides `which yum`
>      >>> >> >yum-2.4.1-1.fc4
>      >>> >> >[root@d6173 alastair]# yum update
>      >>> >> >There was a problem importing one of the Python modules
>      >>> >> >required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >   /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/cElementTree.so: undefined
>      >>> symbol:
>      >>> >> >PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >Please install a package which provides this module, or
>      >>> >> >verify that the module is installed correctly.
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >It's possible that the above module doesn't match the
>      >>> >> >current version of Python, which is:
>      >>> >> >2.4.1 (#2, May  3 2005, 17:14:18)
>      >>> >> >[GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5 )]
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to
>      >>> >> >the yum faq at:
>      >>> >> >   http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq
>     < http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq>
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >I've been using yum with virtually no problems for a year.  As
>      >>> far as
>      >>> I
>      >>> >> know
>      >>> >> >(!) I havent changed any settings related to character sets, in
>      >>> fact I
>      >>> >> dont
>      >>> >> >even know how to check.
>      >>> >> >What should I do to check this out?
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >Is it possible I have a corrupt shared object file?
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >Thanks again,
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >Alastair
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> >P.S. Apologies for the stupid subject line, I sent the email
>      >>> before I
>      >>> >> wrote
>      >>> >> >anything descritive in there!
>      >>> >> >
>      >>> >> Sorry about the wild goose chase on the character set
>     thing.  Its
>      >>> >> something changeable through an environment variable so its
>     something
>      >>> >> that could easily be changed.  At least that would explain
>     the sudden
>      >>> >> change in behavior.  After I pursued this line for a little
>     while it
>      >>> >> dawned on me that the version of python being reported
>     doesn't make
>      >>> >> sense.
>      >>> >>
>      >>> >> It looks like the copy of python that's in yum's path has
>      >>> regressed to
>      >>> >> something REALLY old.  rpm -q showed python-2.4.3-8.FC4 but
>     yum is
>      >>> >> complaining about a problem with 2.4.1 compiled with gcc 3.2.2.
>      >>> When I
>      >>> >> run python from the command line on my FC4 box, I get:
>      >>> >>
>      >>> >> [root@bend ~]# python
>      >>> >> Python 2.4.3 (#1, Jun 13 2006, 16:41:18)
>      >>> >> [GCC 4.0.2 20051125 (Red Hat 4.0.2-8)] on linux2
>      >>> >>
>      >>> >> The version number that python reports matches the version
>     number for
>      >>> >> the python rpm.  Also, the gcc version python was compiled with
>      >>> matches
>      >>> >> the current version of gcc for FC4.
>      >>> >>
>      >>> >> Try running python (if it will run) from the command line
>     and see
>      >>> what
>      >>> >> it gives for a start-up message (ctrl-D to exit the python
>     CLI).
>      >>> If it
>      >>> >> matches the error message you're getting then at least
>     things are
>      >>> >> consistent and you may need to just re-install python.  Not
>     sure how
>      >>> >> your system got into this state.  If you get the same thing
>     I got
>      >>> >> (matches what rpm says is the installed version) then something
>      >>> really
>      >>> >> strange is going on.  yum is somehow picking up an old copy of
>      >>> python.
>      >>> >>
>      >>> >> Cheers,
>      >>> >> Dave
>      >>> >>
>      >>> >> --
>      >>> >> Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of
>      >>> principles.
>      >>> >> -- Ambrose Bierce
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>      >>> >
>      >>> >
>      >>> >
>      >>> >
>      >>> > Ok I've still got a problem I dont quite understand!
>      >>> >
>      >>> > So i did this:
>      >>> >
>      >>> > rpm -i --force ~alastair/python- 2.4.3-8.FC4.i386.rpm
>      >>> >
>      >>> > However, python still does this:
>      >>> >
>      >>> > [alastair@d6173 sh]$ python Python 2.4.1 (#2, May  3 2005,
>     17:14:18)
>      >>> > [GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5)] on linux2
>      >>> > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more
>     information.
>      >>> >>>>
>      >>>
>      >>> So which python is first in your PATH?
>      >>>
>      >>> $ which python
>      >>>
>      >>> > So the only thing that looks like it has been changed is the
>     symlink
>      >>> > /usr/bin/python2
>      >>> >
>      >>> > Is there another rpm command I should be using for this?
>      >>>
>      >>> Was the commercial app that you believe to be the culprit installed
>      >>> using RPM?
>      >>>
>      >>> Paul.
>      >>>
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>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Hi Paul,
>      >>
>      >> [alastair@d6173 alastair]# which python
>      >> /usr/bin/python
>      >> [alastair@d6173 alastair]#
>      >>
>      >> The App I believe to be the culprit was installed with a shell
>     script.  I
>      >> didnt look at it closely and now its disappeared!
>      >
>      >
>      > Earlier in the thread it appeared that root was getting python
>     2.4.3 and
>      > your regular user account was getting python 2.4.1. So what's the
>     output
>      > of "which python" when run from your regular account?
>      >
>      > Paul.
>      >
>
>
>     What do you get when you
>       echo $PATH
>     from a terminal window?
>
>     If there is a "python" path listed, then you have to find where that is
>     being added.  Check your local configuration files.  I do this with
>        grep PATH ~/.*
>     which only returns .bash_profile.
>
>     The commercial application may work after changing the PATH if it hasn't
>     written over your newer python some how.
>
>     --
>     Robin Laing
>
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>
>
> echo $PATH gives:
>
> /usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
>
> So there is no python path.  I was about to no rpm -e --nodeps python
> but does rpm not use python?
> Is there any other way I can force python to reinstall?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Alastair
>

This isn't getting you far is it.

I am not sure about rpm but I know yum uses python.

Taking a breath I would do an

    rpm -qa |grep python

to get a list of all the python packages installed.  On my FC4 machine
at work, I have 39 packages with python in the name.

Then I would run

    rpm -V {package name}

on the packages to see what packages have errors.  This will narrow down
what package is having issues.  Them maybe you will only have to worry
about repairing a few packages with force.

The last time I ran into a problem like this was moving from RH8 to FC1.
  The upgrade left a lot of little problems.

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Robin Laing

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Hi eveyone,

Thanks David, Paul and Robin for your help! Still no joy! Heres an update,

Firstly i tried:

rpm -e --nodeps python python- 2.4.3-8.FC4.i386.rpm
and:
rpm -i --force python- 2.4.3-8.FC4.i386.rpm

Still python reports the wrong version!

Next I tried rpm -V on all the python packages, most gave no output, heres what I did get:

[root@d6173 sh]# rpm -qa | grep python
gnome-python2-2.10.0-1
libxml2-python-2.6.20-1.FC4
python-ldap-2.0.6-4
gnome-python2-bonobo-2.10.0-1
gnome-python2-extras-2.10.0-6
gnome-python2-extras-2.10.0-2.1
python-sqlite-1.1.6-1
gnome-python2-canvas-2.10.0-1
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.10.0-2.1
rpm-python-4.4.1-23
python-urlgrabber-2.9.6-1
python-elementtree-1.2.6-4
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.10.0-6
python-devel-2.4.3-8.FC4
dbus-python-0.33-3.fc4.1
python-2.4.3-8.FC4
python-numeric-23.7-2
gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.10.0-1
rpm-python-4.4.1-22

[root@d6173 sh]# rpm -V gnome-python2-extras-2.10.0-2.1
.......T    /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gnome-python-extras-2.0.pc
S.5....T    /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/applet.defs
.......T    /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/art.defs
.......T    /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/gtkhtml2.defs
.......T    /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/nautilus_burn.defs
.......T    /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/nb_drive_selection.defs
.......T    /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/print.defs
.......T    /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/printui.defs
.......T    /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/trayicon.defs
.......T    /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/wnck.defs

[root@d6173 sh]# rpm -V gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.10.0-2.1
S.5....T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtkhtml2.so

[root@d6173 sh]# rpm -V python-2.4.3-8.FC4
..?.....    /usr/lib/python2.4/bsddb/test/__init__.py
..?.....    /usr/lib/python2.4/email/test/__init__.py

[root@d6173 sh]# rpm -V rpm-python-4.4.1-22
..5....T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/poptmodule.so
.......T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/rpm/__init__.py
S.5....T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/rpm/_rpmmodule.so
.......T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/rpmdb/__init__.py
S.5....T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/rpmdb/_rpmdb.so
.......T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/rpmdb/db.py
.......T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/rpmdb/dbobj.py
.......T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/rpmdb/dbrecio.py
.......T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/rpmdb/dbshelve.py
.......T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/rpmdb/dbtables.py
.......T    /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/rpmdb/dbutils.py

Im not quite sure what this output means!

Alastair