On Tuesday 19 September 2006 01:39, Jeff Vian wrote: > On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 22:42 +0200, nigel henry wrote: > > I think I've broken Tvtime twice. On FC2, and then on Kubuntu. > > > > The TV tuner card is Hauppauge Win TV Express, and has a Conexant Fusion > > 878a chip. > > Why not try a newer release of the OS? I have FC5 installed, but it's on the other machine, which is only has a 500MHZ cpu, so is unlikely to work. I do have a bit of spare harddrive space on the 1.3GHZ machine, so could put FC5 on that. I'm only on dialup, but do have all the FC5 updates saved from /var/cache/apt/archives to another drive on the same machine, but it means FTP'ing them to the 1.3Gig machine. The real question is Jeff, is what has gone wrong with Tvtime? I remove it using synaptic from either FC2 or Kubuntu. Now it's gone, and only the downloaded RPM, or DEB package remains in /var/cache/apt/archives. I checked for remaining files that hadn't been removed when I uninstalled it, but found nothing. In theory I should be able to reinstall it using the rpm, or deb that's in /var/cache/apt/archives, and get a new start for Tvtime, just like it had never been installed. Clearly though Tvtime has been interacting with other files, so everytime I reinstall it these other files it was interacting with are showing Tvtimes display just as it was before I uninstalled it, which is some sort of corrupted display. The card isn't broken, as it still works on that other OS. I even tried installing the Win TV 2000 viewer onto wine in FC2. It installed OK, but there is a little, or big problem, however you want to view it, with a .dll when I try to run it. I've never been too happy with wine. Stuff will work that I'm not too bothered with, but the stuff I want to work won't. I'm not knocking wine, as it must be one hell of a problem getting Windoze apps to work on wine for the wine developers. Out of interest. Which chip is your Win TV GO using? > > I just installed a WinTV Go card on a box with FC5 and TVTime works > flawlessly. I admit that I am in the US and thus using NTSC and not > SECAM but that is related to the tuner/driver and not the display. > > > Tvtime is from Dag's repo, and is version-1.0.2-1.1.fc2.rf > > > > I put the card in the machine, an Aiii-Friend 1.3GHZ (Celeron) , with 1GB > > RAM. Installed Tvtime from Dag's repo onto FC2. > > > > All I got when running Tvtime was a blue screen, showing a "no signal", > > channel numbers, and that it was set for "Television". Channel scanning > > produced nothing, even with messing with the menu, changing between PAL, > > and SECAM, and changing the frequencies between France, and Europe. > > FC5 has tvtime in the core repo (at least for the x86_64 architecture) > > > I now booted up Kubuntu, on the same machine, and installed Tvtime. Same > > situation. > > > > Right. It's supposed to work on Windoze, so I booted up XP on this > > machine. Now I havn't used it for some time, and have Diamond CS's > > Process Guard installed on it, so had some problems installing the Tv > > tuners drivers onto XP, as Process Guard keeps asking for permission to > > allow, and this seems to interrupt the installation of the drivers, > > resulting in XP giving me a "Houston I think we have a problem" sort of > > reply. So I disable Process Guard (temporarily), then the drivers are > > installed. Then I continue with installing the Win TV viewer that comes > > on the CDROM for the Hauppauge card. > > > > After some messing with scanning for channels, I find the 3 french > > channels, and the 2 belgian channels, plus some sound, and terrible > > graphics for 2 of the 4 UK channels that I get in Northern France. > > > > Right. XP has verified that there is no problem with the card, and can > > even get FM radio from this Hauppauge card on XP. > > > > OK. I know that the card works, the picture isn't fantastic, but that's > > life. Now back into FC2. I now play Tvtimes menu like one plays the > > piano, trying every option, and this is where I think I've screwed it up, > > but I am getting a bit annoyed by now. > > > > I now have a window for Tvtime. I can change the channels using the up > > and down arrows, and they show up in the title bar, but can only see pink > > and bluey green horizontal lines. The tab key which should bring up the > > menu appears to work, but I can't see it. Pressing "q" clears the > > unviewable menu, and pressing "q" again quits Tvtime. > > > > I've removed Tvtime from the system using synaptic, but when I reinstall > > it I get the same as before I uninstalled it. > > > > I'm at a bit of a loss. It would appear that changes that I made in > > Tvtime's menu options, have made changes in files that have nothing to do > > with TVtime. > > > > Not that it this is much interest on the list, but on Kubuntu, after > > messing with Tvtimes menu, I now have, when I disable signal detect, a > > green screen with a very small area (perhaps an eighth of an inch ) of > > pixel soup at the top of the screen. Enabling signal detect again, brings > > me back to the default screen, showing "no signal" , channel #'s on the > > left, and "Television" on the right. > > > > /sbin/lspci (on FC2) > > 00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video > > Capture (rev 11) > > Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV Series > > Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- > > ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- > > Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- > > Latency: 32 (4000ns min, 10000ns max) > > Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10 > > Region 0: Memory at e7005000 (32-bit, prefetchable) > > Capabilities: <available only to root> > > > > 00:0a.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture > > (rev 11) > > Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV Series > > Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- > > ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- > > Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- > > Latency: 32 (1000ns min, 63750ns max) > > Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9 > > Region 0: Memory at e7006000 (32-bit, prefetchable) > > Capabilities: <available only to root> > > > > > > This is the first part of lsmod, which shows the modules loaded for the > > Hauppauge card. > > > > [djmons@localhost djmons]$ /sbin/lsmod > > > > Module Size Used by > > nls_utf8 2241 0 > > udf 75589 0 > > tuner 19821 0 > > tda9887 12889 0 > > tvaudio 20321 0 > > bttv 150033 0 > > video_buf 21829 1 bttv > > i2c_algo_bit 8521 1 bttv > > v4l2_common 5825 1 bttv > > btcx_risc 4681 1 bttv > > i2c_core 21057 5 tuner,tda9887,tvaudio,bttv,i2c_algo_bit > > videodev 9409 1 bttv > > > > I'd be happy for any suggestions, including, just go upstairs to watch > > the TV, but it would be nice to get this card working on something other > > that Windoze. > > > > BTW. On both FC2, and Kubuntu, CPU useage is redlining with TVtime. > > > > Nigel. Nigel.