On Monday 26 June 2006 19:14, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > On 26/06/06, Paul Ward <pnward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > [You could also look at NetworkManager - you need to start it in > system-config-services to have it running. I have only used this with > Gnome though, I am not sure if it works inside KDE - others on the > list, or the list archives may know.] It does work with KDE. NetworkManager is a daemon and has no idea what desktop you may be using. It does cooperate with a GNOME applet called nm-applet, however. The GNOME applet will run under KDE, too. The applet must be started by hand or added to the KDE Autstart folder (Konqueror->Go->Autostart). The nm-applet will need some support, though. To summarize, you need to start these (KDE Autostart folder): /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon /usr/bin/nm-applet --sm-disable The first is so nm-applet can store and retrieve its settings. The second is so nm-applet can save passwords and/or keys for encrypted WiFi networks. There is one bug I've noticed when running nm-applet under KDE. Occasionally, it will fail to redraw in the KDE system tray. The only recovery for this is to start/stop another application using the system tray to cause it to be completely redrawn. Until then, you cannot use nm-applet's menus. (Of course, you don't often need the menus because NM is so nicely automatic.) There is a package called pam_keyring that will open the gnome keyring without a password prompt, if the password on the gnome keyring is the same as the login password. That's a nice addition to avoid an extra password prompt after the first need for authentication credentials for a WiFi network. Finally, the KDE folks have a package called KNetworkManager in development. As I understand it, it is intended to replace nm-applet on the KDE desktop. It is not in the stable KDE releases yet, though. And I have not been successful building it from CVS. But eventually, you should have it as part of the KDE environment. -- Garry T. Williams --- +1 678 656-4579