On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:05:09 -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: > I Beartooth wrote: >> Alas! even with the groupinstall done, my new user gets a fine gnome >> desktop --but I as btth do not. > > Some bit of saved state is preventing Gnome from starting. Log in > on a VT and move the .gconf* .gnome* and .metacity directories > from ~/btth to some out of the way place and then see if Gnome > will start for you. Bless you! And bless you some more! As Robert Ragusa and others had suggested, that was the big one. I'm doing this as btth, on a gnome desktop, on what has just become my main machine once again. No last desparate jackhammered downgrade need apply -- what a relief! As btth on the halfbreed desktop, I did mkdir GnomeTemp, followed by mv .gnome* GnomeTemp, mv .gconf* GnomeTemp, and mv .metacity GnomeTemp -- and then logged out and back in. It gave me gnome, and let me reconstruct my panels in detail. (I couldn't wait to try to find them again.) So I have all that stuff in /home/btth/GnomeTemp -- what do I do next? Delete it all? Sift through it somehow? Some other form of clean-up?? Surely at least make gnome the default login again? Many, many thanks to all! -- Beartooth Staffwright, Wordcrafty Squirreler, Neo- Redneck Retiree, Not Quite Clueless FC Power User