-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Les Mikesell wrote: > How many breakages are too many? I've experienced none. Perhaps my luck is better than I think. :) I have refrained from updating to mailman 2.1.6 on the one server I have that's still using python 2.2, as I am aware that mailman >= 2.1.6 should use python 2.3, as detailed in the installation notes: You must have the Python interpreter installed somewhere on your system. Mailman 2.1 requires Python 2.1 or newer, although Python 2.3 or newer is recommended. Judging from a lack of posts detailing breakage on the mailman-users list, I'm guessing that others are having similar experiences as I have. > Perhaps I've just been spoiled by running perl where there's only > been one syntax change in about 20 years that affected existing code > and you didn't have to know much to fix it. I like perl as well. :) Of course, weren't there issues with unicode in the switch from 5.6 to 5.8? Maybe they were just packaging bugs but I know I saw some problems in that transition. (I don't recall the details well and it's not worth digging through google to find, so if I'm way off, just say so.) No software is immune to change that can cause grief, and for the most part the reason to use a distribution is so that things work together and bugs due to incompatible versions can be worked out by the distro packagers. The point I wanted to make is that I've run mailman on more than a few linux systems over the years and have not had problems due to updates in either mailman or python. The thread started asking for recommendations for a mailing list manager. As a long-time user of mailman I tried to point out that some of the arguments against it's use didn't match my experience (and in the case of JWZ's "Mailman is considered harmful" rant, were simply outdated and untrue). I'd expect that someone who had no mailing list software installed would do the simple thing and install the software available for the distro they are running, and in the case of fedora, there aren't any problems with the combinations of mailman and python. :-) - -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ====================================================================== Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iG0EARECAC0FAkRyTA0mGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucG9ib3guY29tL350bXovcGdwL3Rt ei5hc2MACgkQuv+09NZUB1peTACeMv4UhVL0HHJy1HZUASDQH9wvdvEAn3hPY0zy iyL8QPy2s+3IUbMuYcRn =m/M9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----