Lyvim Xaphir <knightmerc@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 02:22 -0400, Paul Michael Reilly wrote: > > Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > > > On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 16:11 -0400, Paul Michael Reilly wrote: > > > > I have submitted enough bug reports to know that one that deals with > > > > non-FOSS software (ATI and nVidia drivers) will not elicit any useful > > > > response from Fedora. This is the crux of my rant. Fedora simply has > > > > a policy that for non FOSS software, move on. > > > > > > But really, how can they do something about someone else's software? > > > They're in the same boat as you, in that situation, use it or something > > > else. > > > > I must be missing something incredibly simple here. If I'm the > > "project lead" for Fedora, I find somebody who just knows and cares so > > much about X and anoint him or her to be the "X project lead". This > > person cares so much to have a kick-ass X set of RPMs that they > > collect or build FOSS X software, drivers in this case, and build when > > it comes to ATI or nVidia. So the first ATI or nVidia FOSS drivers > > suck dead moose balls, but more people want to scratch that itch, > > people using Suse or Ubuntu or Debian or whatever. > > Is the problem that you can't get dual heads going? Or what is the > problem exactly? Have you tried the factory drivers? What about the > livna drivers? I first tried with a stock FC5 installation. When that didn't work (did absolutely nothing as I recall) I tried the livna drivers. With the livna ATI driver configured for dual head, X failed complaining that it could not detect any devices. I have pretty much reached the decision to approach this problem on two fronts: first I will attempt to get the standard FC5 ATI X code working with dual head and report the results to this list and as a bug report. When that path gets blocked (no more progress is likely and I've done everything useful that I can think of) I'll switch to the livna driver and repeat the process. FWIW, the configuration is: IBM Thinkpad A31p (ATI Mobility FireGL 7800) LCD panel is the primary screen and a Samsung SyncMaster 213T is the secondary screen. Both are configured for 1600x1200. -pmr