Arthur Pemberton: >> That's plain ridiculous. How am I to troubleshoot error messages that >> come up during boot? I can't exactly pause the boot. Aaron Konstam: > No but running dmesg soon after boot will give you what you need. > I say soon because dmesg reads from a finite buffer. Though, if you have boot problems and never get up to that point, it won't do you much good. But did the older systems (that wrote the boot log file) write it as it went along, or rely on the system managing to boot far enough that it could flush a buffer to the disc, anyway? -- (Currently running FC4, occasionally trying FC5.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.