Good afternoon Fedora Gurus, Has anybody had any luck getting Fedora 5 running under Vmware? If so, could you offer any tips? Stan -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:58 PM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 26, Issue 421 Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Playing two different MP3 files at the same time? (Robin Laing) 2. Re: azureus -- FC4 (Robin Laing) 3. Re: WPA needs SSID broadcast? (Andy Green) 4. Disable Failsafe logins on FC5 (Yang Xiao) 5. Xinetd not working.. (Devon Harding) 6. Re: Open Letter: How the FOSS Community May Help Disabled Users (M. Fioretti) 7. Re: Testing iso downloads? (Paul Howarth) 8. Re: WPA needs SSID broadcast? (Michael H. Warfield) 9. Re: Is wireless support any better with FC5? (Lyvim Xaphir) 10. Problems trying to access Windows Share from FC4 (bruce) 11. Wireless Device Name ? (Bob Goodwin) 12. Re: Testing iso downloads? (Mike McCarty) 13. Re: Difference between Debian and other flavours of Linux (Mike McCarty) 14. submitting patches (ded) 15. Re: submitting patches (Lonni J Friedman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:29:22 -0600 From: Robin Laing <Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Playing two different MP3 files at the same time? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <44511B92.8030105@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Patrick, > > I don't use Fedora to play mp3 files, but I do use Fedora to play flac > (see Sound Juice Ripper) files all of the time. With this it is easy > to play two or more files at the same time. I have tried as many as > three files through one sound card at the same time. I would not > think you will need separate sound cards to do what you want. > > Greg Ennis > > > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 17:43 -0700, patrick wrote: > >>Does anyone have any experience with multiple sound cards in a PC >>running Fedora? I'm wondering if there's any sort of practical limit >>besides the number of ISA or PCI slots in a machine? And more >>specifically, let's say you have 3 or 4 sound cards and an >>adequately-powered machine, would Linux have any trouble playing >>different MP3 files to each card? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Patrick >> > > The OP may want to feed a different sound to a different location, not mix the sounds. -- Robin Laing ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:32:36 -0600 From: Robin Laing <Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: azureus -- FC4 To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <44511C54.1040301@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Ed Greshko wrote: > Gowri Satish Adimulam wrote: > >>Hi all , >> >>I am trying to download some files using torrents ( using azureus >>client) >> >>but iam getting some error like , >> Distributed data base UDP port mapping ( NAT/firewalled). >> >>at below of azureus clientit is showing DHT firewalled . >> >>Any help is appreciated. > > > Unblock both TCP and UDP traffic for the port listed under > "Options/Connections". > It could also be your ISP blocking that port. You may have to try a different port. If you look at the Azureus WWW site, you will find the answers to most of the questions. Pretty good at explaining how to open and test for working ports. -- Robin Laing ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:39:49 +0100 From: Andy Green <andy@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: WPA needs SSID broadcast? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <44511E05.1000204@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jurgen Kramer wrote: > I finally moved my wireless connection from WEP128 to WPA-PSK now that > NetworkManager supports it out-of-the-box in FC5. Although WPA works, it > only does so when a enable SSID broadcasting. Is this normal for WPA? > I'd really like to disable SSID broadcasting again. > > This is with my laptop with a Intel IPW2200 and a Netgear DG834G > wireless router. I've also seen the same behavior when I tried using WPA > with a US Robotics router. wpa_supplicant is new to me, but I noticed wpa_passphrase eats the ssid along with the PSK to generate the magic key. Maybe try to regenerate this with a null ssid in wpa_passphrase and see if it is happier with no incoming ssid. -Andy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=4]116]: Bad socket type: stream Apr 27 13:16:43 gatekeeper xinetd[3116]: Error parsing attribute socket_type - DISABLING SERVICE [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=4] [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=5]116]: Bad service flag: REUSE Apr 27 13:16:43 gatekeeper xinetd[3116]: Error parsing attribute flags - DISABLING SERVICE [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=5] [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=6]116]: Bad value for wait: no Apr 27 13:16:43 gatekeeper xinetd[3116]: Error parsing attribute wait - DISABLING SERVICE [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=6] [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=7]116]: Unknown user: root Apr 27 13:16:43 gatekeeper xinetd[3116]: Error parsing attribute user - DISABLING SERVICE [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=7] [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=8]116]: Bad log_on_success flag: DURATION Apr 27 13:16:43 gatekeeper xinetd[3116]: Error parsing attribute log_on_success - DISABLING SERVICE [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=8] [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=9]116]: Bad log_on_failure flag: HOST Apr 27 13:16:43 gatekeeper xinetd[3116]: Error parsing attribute log_on_failure - DISABLING SERVICE [file=/etc/xinetd.d/http] [line=9] Here is the /etc/xinetd.d/http: [root@gatekeeper ~]# cat /etc/xinetd.d/http service http { disable = no socket_type = stream flags = REUSE wait = no user = root log_on_success += HOST DURATION log_on_failure += HOST redirect = 192.168.1.10 80 } ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:50:34 +0200 From: "M. Fioretti" <mfioretti@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Open Letter: How the FOSS Community May Help Disabled Users To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060427195034.GC4542@xxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 14:05:32 PM -0500, Mike McCarty (Mike.McCarty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > My reply was not intended to encourage you to post even more, it was > intended to discourage you from continuing. Apparently it failed to > achieve that goal. Perhaps the tone of this message will be more > pointed and better discourage you. OK, what about this: do you really feel the need to publically behave so disfunctionally and spitting on other people efforts without bothering to explain why or what you find wrong with them? Do you feel it decent or satisfying? May I discourage you from continuing on such a road, unless your goal *is* to embarass yourself? I am doing for free something which I believe is a good thing. The least you could do is to follow public insults with (at least) public explanation. If I *am* doing something wrong, please let me know. Sincerely, Marco -- Marco Fioretti mfioretti, at the server mclink.it Fedora Core 5 for low memory http://www.rule-project.org/ If children must grow able to leverage computers to meet their own goals as free citizens, that's not possible with commercial software, period. -- Ruben Safir ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:52:43 +0100 From: Paul Howarth <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Testing iso downloads? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1146167564.19610.4.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 14:28 -0500, Gordon Gallup wrote: > Greetings all, > I have downloaded the FC5 isos and, after burning the first one, I > found that the media check failed when I booted. Is there any way of > checking the correctness of the download step separate from the > burning step? The disk image mounted successfully with mount "loop" > option. Yes, this is what the SHA1SUM file is for. $ sha1sum -c SHA1SUM The media check is pretty useless on some hardware (this is due to a long standing kernel bug) and you may get a successful install regardless of a mediacheck failure. Paul. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:54:57 -0400 From: "Michael H. Warfield" <mhw@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: WPA needs SSID broadcast? To: gtm.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: mhw@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <1146167697.4722.29.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 21:21 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > I finally moved my wireless connection from WEP128 to WPA-PSK now that > NetworkManager supports it out-of-the-box in FC5. Although WPA works, it > only does so when a enable SSID broadcasting. Is this normal for WPA? > I'd really like to disable SSID broadcasting again. I can't speak to what NetworkManager does or doesn't do. I don't use it and don't care for it. I have noticed with wpa-supplicant, which NetworkManager uses, that I have needed to specify the expected SSID in advance in the ifcfg-{device} file for some networks. I presumed that's because of the SSID broadcast, or lack thereof. If I don't specify the SSID in advance, wpa-supplicant will grab whatever network is broadcasting an SSID that it knows about. If it can't see that broadcast poll, then it won't see the network is there to try and configure against it, and there you are. Preconfiguring an SSID in the WLAN card setup before firing up wpa-supplicate does seem to get around that. Couple of points... * WPA-PSK... I hope you configured a REALLY strong WPA-PSK password. For even respectable passwords (less than 20 characters) WPA-PSK may be easier to break than WEP128. An attacker only has to capture 4 packets for WPA-PSK (as opposed to a half a million or so for a reasonable WEP128 crack using aircrack or such) and they can then do an off-line brute force attack on the PSK. Robert Moskowitz, Senior Technical Director of ICSA Labs wrote this back in late 2003: http://wifinetnews.com/archives/002452.html > A passphrase typically has about 2.5 bits of security per character, > so the passphrase of n bytes equates to a key with about 2.5n + 12 > bits of security. Hence, it provides a relatively low level of > security, with keys generated from short passwords subject to > dictionary attack. Use of the key hash is recommended only where it is > impractical to make use of a stronger form of user authentication. A > key generated from a passphrase of less than about 20 characters is > unlikely to deter attacks. > > The PTK is used in the 4-Way handshake to produce a hash of the > frames. There is a long history of offline dictionary attacks against > hashes. Any of these programs can be altered to use the information in > the 4-Way Handshake as input to perform the offline attack. Just about > any 8-character string a user may select will be in the dictionary. As > the standard states, passphrases longer than 20 characters are needed > to start deterring attacks. This is considerably longer than most > people will be willing to use. > > This offline attack should be easier to execute than the WEP attacks. Since you can "force" and active connection to an AP to "disassociate", you can force the client to reauthenticate so it's really easy to get those first 4 packets of the WPA-PSK authentication. * SSID broadcast. Why worry about not broadcasting the SSID? Turning off SSID broadcast is of no benefit, security wise. Kismet and other, similar, tools readily "decloak" networks which don't broadcast SSID, so you're not hiding much (you're not hiding ANYTHING, in fact). I've heard the argument that broadcasting the SSID is like having a welcome, open to the public, sign out front and not broadcasting is indicating that this is not a "public" access point. That argument only goes so far, though. The fact that you are encrypted is argument enough that it is not a "open" access point, for those who do not have the key. The other argument (and this goes both ways) is that not broadcasting the SSID removes that AP from the network list of "available" networks (say in Windows WiFi available networks list). Ok... Then you have to explicitly specify the SSID to being with. So, that relates back to your original question. Do you want your connections to your AP to autoconfigure or not? That's your choice to make. > This is with my laptop with a Intel IPW2200 and a Netgear DG834G > wireless router. I've also seen the same behavior when I tried using WPA > with a US Robotics router. > > Jurgen Mike -- Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 | mhw@xxxxxxxxxxxx /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/ | (678) 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471 | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20060427/8808190f/attachment.bin ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:23:42 -0400 From: Lyvim Xaphir <knightmerc@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Is wireless support any better with FC5? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1146173022.4383.17.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 13:51 -0400, James Pifer wrote: > > > I've also tried two PCMCIA cards, a DLink DWL-G650 with the Atheros > > > chipset (I've never got this to work) > > Did you install the madwifi driver? rpm.livna.org has rpms. > > > I tried madwifi several months ago and could not get much working. I was > trying the DLink and Broadcom cards at the time. Have you tried the ndiswrapper approach? LX -- °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° Missiles of ligneous or osteal consistency have the potential of fracturing osseous structure, but appellations will eternally remain innocuous. Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:19:05 -0700 From: "bruce" <bedouglas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Problems trying to access Windows Share from FC4 To: "'For users of Fedora Core releases'" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1a3b01c66a37$d816b470$0301a8c0@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi.. I have FC4. Using Gnome, I'm trying to access a Windows 2000 shared folder. I can access the folder from other windows boxes. I bring up the Linux Nautilus File Mgr/GUI. I then select the "File->Connect to Server". I then selected "Windows share", and filled in the information: Server :thor.mesa.com Share :Data Folder : User :root Name :root from the linux box, i can ping the windows box using "thor.mesa.com". the name of the shared folder is "Data". i have an actual user on the windows box, named "root". the dialog seems to hang and never returns.. any thoughts/comments on what might be going on? thanks -bruce ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:28:13 -0400 From: Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Wireless Device Name ? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4451295D.5040105@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Can anyone tell me where to enter a "device name" so that it is displayed in the router data. This is as seen listed under "Attached Devices" on a Netgear WGR614 "wireless" router viewed via Firefox. We went through three other routers before deciding this one was a keeper and at least one of them listed a client name for my daughter's Mac. You will notice that the HP6840 printer is identified. It would be convenient if I could name the others also. Attached Devices # IP Address Device Name MAC Address 1 192.168.1.2 -- 00:0a:95:6a:4e:10 2 192.168.1.3 HP0011858CCC25 00:11:85:8c:cc:25 3 192.168.1.226 -- 00:14:bf:e3:4c:8a Thanks. Bob Goodwin Zuni, Virginia ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:32:15 -0500 From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Testing iso downloads? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <44512A4F.7060101@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Gordon Gallup wrote: > Greetings all, > I have downloaded the FC5 isos and, after burning the first one, I > found that the media check failed when I booted. Is there any way of > checking the correctness of the download step separate from the > burning step? The disk image mounted successfully with mount "loop" > option. > GAG Not necessary to mount. Use md5sum to verify the download. (Or does FC5 use sha1sum?) Anyway, it is very possible to be relatively confident that the image arrived properly. First check size :-) You might need to turn DMA off for your CDROM drive. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:37:24 -0500 From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Difference between Debian and other flavours of Linux To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <44512B84.6090307@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 14:02 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > >>Max Spevack wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Mike McCarty wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Tim wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>One of the dislikes I have with Fedora *is* the release schedule. >>>>>>>There'll be a release around a certain date, ready or not, sensible or >>>>>>>not. A new release comes up around the time the last one has many of >>>> >>>> >>>>That's just what Fedora is. The releases are time based, not >>>>readiness or QA based. >>> >>> >>>You do realize that we slipped the release of FC5 because it wasn't >>>ready at the initial date, right? :-) >> >>Yes. >> >> >>>We *try* to do a 6 month release cycle, but we don't demand it "just >> >>I don't recall using the word "demand", nor did I use the phrase >>"just because". I used the phrase "time based". >> > > > Time is just one of the factors in the release schedule. > > > >>>because". It's a goal, and it gives us something to shoot for, and >>>keeps in mind the Fedora motto of rapid progress. >> >>Perhaps English is not one of your native languages. For something >>to be "based" in English does not mean "solely based", as you seem >>to think I was implying. > > > Your certainly claimed that it was not readiness or QA based which is > incorrect since we have indeed delayed the schedule to do more QA on > several occasions before. I do remember me correctly this specific > misconception earlier from you too. I don't want to get into the niceties of the language used, however, the release of Fedora is definitely not QA based, but time based, your assertions to the contrary notwithstanding. Just see above "We *try* to do a 6 month release cycle...." IOW, the basis for release is time lapse. If the quality is so low that it just isn't reasonable, then it gets held up. I also recall you making similar false claims earlier as well. It isn't necessary to remind me. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:38:42 +0100 From: ded <my.accountnow@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: submitting patches To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060427203842.GA10741@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi All, Concerning, for example, mutt. An older version, 1.4.2 from 2004 I believe, is installed by default. I always compile my own with some of the third party patches referenced on mutt.org. If I want to share these do I just need to put them on my site or can I submit them to a developer or ? What's the procedure? Kind Regards, D -- BOFH excuse #148: Insert coin for new game ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:57:51 -0700 From: "Lonni J Friedman" <netllama@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: submitting patches To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <7c1574a90604271357u50ac869coce6727337d8bb230@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Opening a bugzilla bug with the patches would likely be the best way. On 4/27/06, ded <my.accountnow@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi All, > Concerning, for example, mutt. An older version, 1.4.2 from 2004 I > believe, is installed by default. I always compile my own with some > of the third party patches referenced on mutt.org. If I want to > share these do I just need to put them on my site or can I submit > them to a developer or ? What's the procedure? > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ L. 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