Ali Helmy wrote: > Yeah, im sure, but its not there... anyways, i found a work-around, by > calling /etc/rc.d/init.d/messagebus start is the same as service > messagebus start, and the same goes for all the services... That's nice.... But I still would be concerned if you don't have the initscripts package installed. It also provides the following.... /sbin/consoletype /sbin/genhostid /sbin/getkey /sbin/ifdown /sbin/ifup /sbin/initlog /sbin/netreport /sbin/ppp-watch /sbin/service /sbin/setsysfont /usr/sbin/sys-unconfig /usr/sbin/usernetctl /bin/doexec /bin/ipcalc /bin/usleep You should humor yourself by actually checking the /sbin directory for the existence of those binaries. -- To be is to program.