Re: Problem booting FC5 after good install and doing the "first boot" configuration

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On 4/15/06, Debbie Deutsch <fedoralist@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
>
> >
> > Only one IDE connector! And I thought my system was cheap. You really
> > have an economy motherboard.
> >
> > Seriously, the sharing of that single bus does affect operation of all
> > devices. Try turning off dma. If that solves your problem I recommend
> > that you replace the hard drive with an SATA one.
> >
>
> Oh, I have systems that cost more (because I want them to do more).
> This is a little barebones system that can physically hold at most two
> storage devices.  There is no need for more than one IDE connector or
> two SATA connectors.  Given what I want to do with it, I will never need
> more than those two drives in this system.  At the same time, I didn't
> want the system to be physically larger than need be.  So, this system
> is just right.
>
> Although I respect your seriousness and good intentions in offering your
> advice, I am convinced that having the hard drive and the optical drive
> on the same IDE bus cannot be the problem.  There are several reasons
> for my belief:
>
> 1. There was no problem with this configuration when the hard drive had
> FC3 on it.  FC3 booted and ran, no problems.
>
> 2. The optical drive is doing nothing when I try to boot.  (For one
> thing, booting Linux from the hard drive does not involve trying to read
> or write to the optical drive.  For another, there is no media in the
> optical drive to read from.)  So, even though the optical drive is
> connected to the IDE channel, it is not using it.
>
> 3. The install process, during which both drives *are* active, worked
> fine, twice.  The system always hangs at the same point in the boot
> process.  If the problem were flaky hardware, the error would not be so
> reproducible.
>
> 4. If merely having two devices on the same IDE bus were enough to cause
> problems such as I am experiencing, there were be a lot more people
> complaining about similar (and other) problems all of the time.
>
> Although I am no expert when it comes to Linux, I have almost 30 years
> experience with computers, including some quality time up close and
> personal with system architecture and design (mostly for data networking
> gear, but it's the same issues and principles).  I fully appreciate the
> fact that the communications performance on a shared bus may decline
> when there is more than one active user of the bus.  However that is not
> the same thing as there being errors.
>
> Debbie
>

Do not equate the quality/stability of the 32-bit FC3 drivers with the
64-bit FC5 drivers. They are not the same. The gap is closing but a
lot more work needs to be done.


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