Re: [Flame Bait] - Linux as bloatware

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Jeff Mutonho wrote:
--- John Wendel <jwendel10@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Food for thought,

Although Gnome is my preferred Environment, the dependency chain is
I don't use Evolution;  however, if I uninstall it, deps would remove
Gnome =P
I am not sure if it is the LSB, Fedora or Gnome deps, but when I install
Fedora I get
web servers, DNS servers and mail servers installed and all I want for
this machine
is a desktop type install, after all it is a laptop.

During my install , I remember seeing an option to choose which
packages(hence servers) you want to install....
Fedora Core 4, 5 and probably the others, I select which packages I want to
install. I can get very specific so it can take 15 mins or so. Installer runs,
picks deps (doesn't even tell you what they are), boot up Fedora and many
packages I have unselected have been installed. I start figuring out deps when I start uninstalling this packages, but it's a lot of work learning all that jazz. Mandriva's installer tells you what the deps
are as you check or uncheck (and confirms with a prompt to see if you want
to make those changes).

I like using Fedora, but I hate the installer (lack of disclosure and customization before first boot). After I install it, I usually spend a lot of time uninstalling the apps I told it not to install in the first place (if uninstalling the app doesn't break something
I use).

Anaconda is only a millimeter better than a Windows installer. Window doesn't give the option of customizing modules on install where Anaconda gives you the
option but installs the crap anyways =P

I guess in the M$ sys vs Open Source sys, M$ does have something good, less code
reuse which prevents crazy deps trees and simplifies installs for users.


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