On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 14:08 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 03 April 2006 13:43, Craig White wrote: > >On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 13:27 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Monday 03 April 2006 12:18, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: > [...] > >> >I maintain, it's all there. > >> > >> It may be on *that* screen, but thats not the screen one would > >> intuitively use for that. Those options should be fully available > >> at the top of the drive prep menu, and I don't have a quarter to > >> call somebody who *thinks* they are simplifying it for Joe & Jane > >> Sixpack and tell him/her thay they are an idiot for doing it > >> preemptively, long before one is even thinking of how the target > >> drive is to be prepared. Just like the organization line in my > >> headers, absolutely none. > > > >---- > >there is a mechanism for providing feedback...bugzilla. I've read it > >here many times...it's not a bug if it's not in bugzilla. > > Yes, and the dubious geneology of bugzilla has been discussed here, at > length, many times in several, often unprintable languages. It maybe > is improving from my last meeting with it, but simple it isn't. Most > (including me) would rather not have a brainless script second, third, > or forth guessing what it is we're trying to say. ---- seems to me that since Red Hat and Fedora absolutely rely upon bugzilla for bug reports and repairs, enhancement requests and all other errata for their packaging and have done so for quite some time. Recognize that if you don't provide feedback, your opinions languish here and go nowhere and are not considered and not relevant to the decision makers (i.e. the packagers, in this case - fedora-developers). It is your choice whether you interact with bugzilla or not. When I want my opinions to actually count (be considered), I put them in bugzilla attached to the appropriate package. When I want to get on a soap box and shout into the abyss...this is a suitable place. As to your insinuation of the 'dubious genealogy of bugzilla', it has served the development system for RHL, RHEL and now Fedora for a great many years and is integral to the development. While less than perfect, it is a system that is used in a vast array of software projects but you could actually put in a bugzilla entry on bugzilla itself I would guess...that is if you identified something that needed fixing. Craig