I was able to fix the console login/logout problem by updating xorg-x11. Thanks for the help on this. I now notice that boot.log is an empty file? Is this normal for FC4. It was there on FC2. I checked syslogd and it is running. /etc/syslog.conf is present and contains a line "local7.* /var/log/boot.log" If I delete the empty boot.log and reboot, a new boot.log file is created but remains empty? Can someone advise as to how I may get it functioning again. Also, when did fedora switch from /mnt/* to /media/* ?? Why?? Thanks, Regards, Getting really bummed with this distribution, JimP
