On Thursday 09 March 2006 13:05, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Thursday 09 March 2006 12:41, Yang Xiao wrote: >>On 3/8/06, jludwig <wralphie@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Tuesday 07 March 2006 22:52, Parameshwara Bhat wrote: >>> > Dear List, >>> > >>> > Nowadays I regularly recive replies to my postings from 'AntiSpam >>> > UOL <petsupermarket.sspam@xxxxxxxxxx>'.Though there appears to be >>> >>> discussions >>> >>> > on this on the list,having not followed from the beginning,I >>> > could not make any sense of it. >>> > >>> > If the full header is listed,message seems to go from one shadow5 >>> > to uol.com.br whose antispam returns the message.Produced below. >>> > >>> > Received: from shadow5 (unknown [172.26.5.186]) by >>> >>> sauron6.uol.com.br >>> >>> > (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECC26C2261 for <peebhat@xxxxxxxxx>; Tue, >>> > 7 Mar 2006 04:46:39 -0300 (BRT) >>> > >>> > Who is this shadow5 (172.26.5.185)?How my message went to this >>> > server? From gmail SMTP or fedora-list server? or from my ISP on >>> > the way? >>> > >>> > Thanks a lot. >> >>I don't understand this, why dcoesn't the list owner blacklist the >> site on their server instead of telling subscriber to do it >> themselves? > >Because, as has been explained here several times, the list owner has > no way to find out which of the many users is useing the mail relay > that actually hits uol and generates the C/R. And, as far as he > knows, there are no subscribers to these lists from uol.com.br. > uol.com.br sells this service as a value added feature and ignores > all the hoopla it creates, apparently not considering how much of an > imposition it is on those to whom uol.com.br is just another spammer. > Which AFAIAC is one of the more civilized terms I apply to those > jerks... And procmail is working quite well folks. I reset .procmailrc to file it instead of /dev/null it, sent the above message, and got a 6691 byte long piece of html crap back in just 10 seconds or so, at which point I changed it back to /dev/null. That C/R response was far costlier in terms of net bandwidth wasted than my useless reply above. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
