On Tuesday 07 March 2006 22:08, Terry Polzin wrote: >On Tuesday March 7 2006 22:04, Michael H. Warfield wrote: >> On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 21:55 -0500, Terry Polzin wrote: >> : - Trim'n some cruft... >> : >> > > VME was good, too. Compiled scripts (procedures), an ALGOL >> > > derived scripting language (SCL) at least as good as VMS's dcl, >> > > optional command templates, data dictionary, and screen handling >> > > that reveals CICS as the dogs breakfast that it is. Crummy >> > > screen editors, can't beat VMS on that, though I have yet to >> > > find a line editor as powerful. >> > > >> > > Andy Goss >> > >> > On to the main frame stuff, >> > DOS 27 / Socrates >> > DOS/VS(E) 33,34 >> > CICS 1.5,1.6 >> > VTAM >> > ICCF >> > VOLLIE >> > VSAM >> >> Ah! Forgot about da Mainframe stuff... > >I could go on about the Tab equipment, and wiring boards... ;-) > >> Scope 3 (Control Data Systems Operating System, Circa CDC 6500 - >> Hollerith based character sets, no less). >> >> Mike Or, how about wire wrapping all the support boards around an 1802 based Super Elf, complete with the whole cloth simple video I needed to make a machine that installed an academy leader and automation trigger tones on a tv commercial back when Sony 2800's and 2850's were new? Saving us a generation loss between production and air. 1977-78, still in use in 94 when I last talked to the Chief there. All in about $1190 bytes of battery backed ram for the program and data, maybe another 100 bytes for stack. No assembler, looked it all up in the 1802 programmers manual & entered with a hex monitor the board came with. Or doing the same thing with a pair of z-80 boards, building a pretty complete transmitter automatic remote control system a couple of years later when the z-80 was new & had a buglist as long as your arm in 4 point type? Again, no assembler & a hex monitor only. Or building a super duper, many times friendlier & 4x faster than Grasses EDISK for the 300 series switchers (it sold for $20k) out of a trs-80 color computer 2 running os9 level 1 V2, used from 1989 to 2002 when the last Grass 300 was dumped in the garage at WDTV where I was Chief from 10/1984-07/2002. Even before small computers, my fingerprints were in the cameras that were on the Trieste when it made its only dive into the mohole back in the 60's. I helped build them a few months before that dive. That, and $0.65 or so will get you a cup of java around here, and thats about what its worth, but I just had to play "can you top this" with all the big dogs on this list. Now of course I'm just another old fart with a story to tell. :) Do carry on, I rather enjoy it when the real artists come out and play. :) -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.