After a fresh reinstall (fc4) I have gone through the archives a couple of times (theaimesgroup) rereading ntp posts, looking for the solution to getting ntp up and running. A solution that worked great for me (in the past) was to add a " -u " or a " -U " on line 80 something of some obscure file. ( wish I'd recorded this one ). Does anyone recall the details of this fix ? --gary