On Monday 23 January 2006 09:06, Les Mikesell wrote: >On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 07:59, Jeff Spaleta wrote: >> On 1/23/06, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > I'll believe it when I see improvements in the user install >> > process that match or surpass other distributions. >> >> fedora doesn't match or surpass the install process of slackware? > >Interesting comparison. I stopped using slackware as soon >as another distro became easier to use. I think it was >RedHat 4.x that was the first thing that had a fair chance >of installing automatically on a variety of hardware from >the CDs. I don't see a lot of reason for brand loyalty in >the world of free software. > And thats where I have to pipe up Les. Each of all these competing distros would like to be able to carve out enough of a niche in this thing that they can make a living selling the services that inevitably open up as a market when someone who isn't intimately familiar with both the hardware, and the nuances of a missing } in some C code installs this thing called linux because he's heard its better than Winderz from his friends. RedHat has done the best job of that so far, but SuSe has made some truely great strides in the last 3 years too from what I read on the net. But don't denigrate the efforts of Pat at Slackware, or the other one? man show just 50 miles north of me in Morgantown WV, Mepis. Pat has continued on at a pace thats been hard on his health, simply because he is a believer. One of the things that sells a distro to Joe Sixpack, is the enthusiasm of a satisfied user he knows and drinks beer with. In fact, at the onsies and twosies level, its probably the single most important factor to the Joes of this world. You are not showing any brand loyalty when you make a statement like that, and are simply saying up front that you will take the best deal "as long as its free". Thats not a particularly pleasant image when others view it. Its certainly not an image I want to project in front of myself. I can irritate folks quite well without that, as I've proved here a couple of times, but I'm still here, cause like Calahans Bar, its the best place to be and I know it. >-- > Les Mikesell > lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.