I finally got the Java tightVNC VNC client running on my FC4 machine. When I log in remotly, I am presented with one of the 'light' windows manager- I don't know the name of it, it is the lime-green one. I want it to present me with KDE. Some archive digging led me to the command "switchdesk kde" however, when I logged out and back in, I still had that lightweight manager. So I dug some more and found that I need to modify /etc/sysconfig/desktop. So I changed it to: DESKTOP="KDE" DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE But I _still_ get logged into that same manager! How to proceed? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_is_a_firewall.html 234232