On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 13:41 -0800, Rickey Moore wrote: > > > Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Are you suggesting that there is something morally wrong with > the people who contributed to the *bsd components whose lack > of restrictions allowed them to be used in OSX as well as > continuing to be freely available? Or that OSX existing at > all is a bad thing? > Morally wrong? Nope, no one HAS to live up to my expectations, that's > a given. > > My personal take on Mr. Jobs and Apple? > <hitches up pants> > <deep inhale of breath> > <eyeballs Les> > I've been largely unimpressed by Steve Jobs since 1978. Woz built a > helluva machine. Woz is a Saint. Jobs closed it up, and Woz moved on. > My old original Woz built Apple ][ had integer basic in ROM and would > drop to a mini-assembler when you hit reset... you could load a > 'copy-protected' disk into memory, hit reset and write that sucker > straight to tape using assembler level commands... <evil grin> ... and > you had it! The 'update' to the roms put floating point basic in and a > redirect of the reset (03d0) to reboot the system. No more Wozness... > bad users not in charge of their space anymore. Double bad bad to look > at how something works. Now Jobs wants open source? If it wasn't for > BSD and all of their contributors, Jobs would still be barefoot and > fingering his butt, trying to figure a way to lock it all in for his > greedy self and forever getting beat like a wet dog by Gates. > > Now all these nice wellmeaning people shower Apple with BSD gifts, and > it'll be a matter of time that we see a return against the GiftDebt or > not. I won't be affected either way as I haven't given them sh*t since > I piddled away $2500 in 1978 dollars, to find only several years later > new software couldn't run because I needed to replace the ! entire > machine for the latest.. "Then ye shall know the Devil by his works." > <chuckles> OSX could be a better thing if it was Fedora'd. The entire > thing. Heck, I'd probably use that. > > I keep hoping Apple (apart from the OSX community) will just blow up > and go to Hell one day, but that line of thinking is REALLY bad for > me , my Yama turns a dark shade of maroon. I'll leave them to the > Creator of the Universe to deal with. May they recieve, in like > manner, as they have given. > ---- I think their perpetual 3-4% market share is probably akin to the hell you wish upon them. It's not enough for anyone to take them seriously. I think that it inures to the strength of BSD and BSD license that Apple can make use of some of it's pearls and build a business model upon it. Myself, I find OSX modestly unusable and only effective if I put another 2-5 thousand dollars of software on it. Craig
