Paul Howarth: >>> What about user "test" in group "tim"? Tim: >> Same results, as I expected. Oops, I made a mistake somewhere along the line while changing things all over the place. So, starting again: -r-----r-- 1 test tim 20 Jan 12 07:24 test.text Is readable by "test" and any other user, but not by "tim". -- Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.