Jeff Vian: >>> To make it truly _world_ readable it needs to be mode 444. Tim: >> Are you sure? I'd have thought that 404 would be sufficient, if the >> reasons offered were true. A quick test proved it worked for me. Paul Howarth: > A user other than the owner that is in the same group as the file won't > be able to read it, will they? Argh, double negative logic, and it's 6am... If I create a test file as user and group "tim", then make it mode 404 e.g. -r-----r-- 1 tim tim 5 Jan 12 06:04 permissions.text User "test" in group "test" can read it (I've tested this). Are you saying that they should or shouldn't be able to do so? -- Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.