Greetings all; In my quest to find something with a bit more ability that tvtime, I had yumi install all of the xine stuffs I could find in its menu's. xine looks as if I might work, except the v4l tab says it can't find a suitable device. Obviously I'm missing something, but I don't believe its device drivers because they are all loaded (cx88 stuffs) and tvtime works great. So whats next? What am I missing? FWIW, I also have xine-hd installed from tarballs, and its not capable of accessing my card either, never has managed to find it. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.