On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Dell GX520, Fedora 4: 1920x1200 on Dell 2405FP fails > (Jacques Beigbeder) > 2. Opening multiple files in Gnome. (Sam Varshavchik) > 3. Re: XFS file system (M Daniel R M) > 4. Re: XFS file system (Zoltan Boszormenyi) > 5. Re: Installing JAVA (Eric Tanguy) > 6. /dev/null strangeness (akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx) > 7. Removables devices in KDE 3.5 (Marcelo Magno T Sales) > 8. Re: /dev/null strangeness (David Gomez) > 9. Easiest Way To Get ULi Ethernet DriverWorking (Robert L. Cochran) > 10. Re: Easiest Way To Get ULi Ethernet DriverWorking > (Sam Varshavchik) > 11. Re: Pentium-D Processors? (Michael Hennebry) > 12. FC4 up2date fatal RPM install error (David L) > 13. Sony Clie Sync to Evolution (Lovell Mcilwain) > 14. need dmraid install help on fc4 (Eric Wood) > 15. FC4 Pine replacement? (Devon Harding) > 16. Re: FC4 Pine replacement? (Bill Perkins) > 17. Re: FC4 Pine replacement? (Devon Harding) > 18. ATI driver experience (Neal Becker) > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I don't find how to get 1920x1200 resolution on > > the following hardware with Fedora Core 4 up-to-date: > > Dell GX 520 > > Intel Chipset 945G > > screen Dell 24" : 2405FP, native resolution: 1920x1200 > > > > I fail to get 1920x1200 with Xorg... > > I can only get 1600x1200. > > > > Searching on the Web gives some hints but with no luck: > > . 915resolution doesn't support 1920x1200; > > . writing in xorg.conf: > > Modeline "1920x1200" 193.16 1920 2048 2256 2592 1200 1201 1204 1242 > > doesn't succeed > > > > Any idea? > > > > -- > > Jacques Beigbeder | Jacques.Beigbeder@xxxxxx > > Service de Prestations Informatiques | http://www.spi.ens.fr > > Ecole normale supérieure | > > 45 rue d'Ulm |Tel : (+33 1)1 44 32 37 96 > > F75230 Paris cedex 05 |Fax : (+33 1)1 44 32 20 75 > > > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > In FC3, my system-install-packages.desktop file reads: > > > > Exec=/usr/bin/system-install-packages %F > > > > According to freedesktop docs, "%F" expands to a multiple list of filenames. > > Therefore, if multiple desktop icons are clicked and opened, Gnome should > > start a single copy of the application, and pass the list of files on the > > command lines. > > > > Yet, in FC3, clicking on multiple RPM files, and opening them, starts > > multiple instances of system-install-packages, one instance per file. I > > haven't upgraded to FC4 yet, but if nautilus still does this in FC4, it > > needs to be bugzillaed and fixed. > > > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > El lun, 26-12-2005 a las 12:03 -0400, George N. White III escribió: > > > On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, don fisher wrote: > > > > > > > I can determine that the XFS file system is supported. But it does not appear > > > > to be mainstream (e.g. no mkfs.xfs etc). Abut two years ago it was used for > > > > large (>4TB) and fast file systems. > > > > > > And is still used for things like numerical simulations, rendering, and > > > remote sensing invlving terrabyte's of data where downtime is expensive > > > and thruput is important. XFS tries to ensure that the filesystem is > > > always consistent, so rebooting a huge after a crash does not require > > > running fsck for days before the system can be used. > > > > > > > What is the current status of XFS. Most all of the documentation I have been > > > > able to locate date from the last century. > > > > > > Maybe you were looking at docs on RH systems. There is an active mailing > > > list. SGI (who still support XFS as an open source project) has begun > > > using SUSE on their Itanium machines, so XFS is certainly being used by > > > the people who really need it. > > > > > > There can be problems with XFS, especially if you get into edgy > > > workloads/hardware configurations, on 32-bit Intel (depending on the > > > devices) with the 4-k stacks on RH. Most people who really need XFS will > > > be using 64-bit processors. Some people have been running XFS on 32-bit > > > hardware in FC[34] without problems, but I suspect they have been lucky > > > with the workloads and hardware. > > > > > > -- > > > George N. White III <aa056@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > I'm been following this thread with some interest, now just to > > contribute a single fact more: end-user i80x86 32-bit system, 7 months > > fc4 running, 7 months running xfs partitions, but only in the /mnt > > branch, as huge, extended partitions; p2p and multimedia use, so file > > sizes are, in general, of hundreds of MB minimum; No one problem there. > > Great. Efficiency, in two words... > > > > > > Regards > > > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > Florin Andrei írta: > > > > >On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 10:57 -0700, don fisher wrote: > > > > > > > > >>I can determine that the XFS file system is supported. But it does not > > >>appear to be mainstream (e.g. no mkfs.xfs etc). Abut two years ago it > > >>was used for large (>4TB) and fast file systems. > > >> > > >>What is the current status of XFS. Most all of the documentation I > > >>have been able to locate date from the last century. > > >> > > >> > > > > > >When you boot the Fedora installer, add "xfs" to the list of the > > >parameters at the very first prompt. E.g. "linux text xfs" (or "linux > > >xfs text", can't remember the correct order) for a text-based install > > >that activates XFS. > > > > > >You can then create XFS partitions with the installer. > > >The XFS utilities will be installed automatically. > > > > > >It is recommended to use XFS on partitions which contain very large > > >files that are read/written at high speeds. E.g. video capture, MythTV, > > >etc. XFS is the best performer in that case. > > > > > >I am using it all the time on my 200GB multimedia/MythTV partition with > > >FC4 and works extremely well. > > > > > > > > > > Well, I have installed FC3 that way (XFS on most partitions) > > and now I regret it. All the time I have a power failure (very rare) > > or a kernel crash, all the files that were opened O_RDWR contain only > > zeroes after reboot. And most of the time the Oops points to the xfs driver. > > :-( > > > > Fortunately JOE and other editors close the backup file after saving. > > But I had to reinstall several RPMs on such occasions because > > prelink or ldconfig was running at the time of the crash. > > I never had such a problem with EXT3 before. > > I run kernel.org kernels and 2.6.15-rc4-git2 still gives me problems. > > > > Best regards, > > Zoltán Böszörményi > > > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > Le lundi 26 décembre 2005 à 01:45 -0800, Kenneth Porter a écrit : > > > --On Friday, December 23, 2005 6:43 PM +1000 Michael Wright > > > <michael_wright@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > Need help on how i can install java > > > > > > <http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/JPackage_Java_for_FC4> > > > > > > > > yes but the last available jdk package from sun is update 6 and the last > > available rpm from jpackage is for update 5 ... > > > > -- > > Eric Tanguy | Nantes, France > > <eric.tanguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Key : A4B8368F | Key Server : subkeys.pgp.net > > Fedora Core release 4 (Stentz) sur athlon kernel 2.6.14-1.1653_FC4 > > > > > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > I have a FC4 system that every time it reboots the permissions on > > /dev/null change from 0666 to 0660. This causes boot errors and the > > system will not boot. > > > > That seemed to me to be a udev error so I looked in: > > /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules > > and the mode of null seems correct. > > > > Am I looking in the wrong place or what can I do to fix this problem? > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After upgrading KDE to 3.5, I've been experiencing problems when using > > removable devices. When a CD or DVD is inserted or when a removable > > storage device is attached, a dialog appears asking what to do with > > the newly available media (nothing? play in kaffeine? open in > > konqueror? , etc.). I'm aware this is a new feature of KDE 3.5 (by > > the way, is this configurable?). > > However, no matter what option I select in this dialog, I can't access > > the device in konqueror using the media:/ URL. The media appears > > there (or, if it's a CD/DVD, its label is shown), but I get an error > > message stating that the device is already mounted when I click it. > > The only way to access CDs, DVDs or removable storage devices in > > konqueror is by opening /media/device_name. Besides, I have to > > unmount removable storage devices using the command prompt, because > > the context menu of its icon at media:/ does not show the option to > > safely disconnect it. However, if I unplug the device, its icon > > disappears from media:/, as expected. > > > > Any suggestions on what to do to get my removable devices correctly > > accessed in media:/ again? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marcelo > > > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 11:20 -0600, akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > I have a FC4 system that every time it reboots the permissions on > > > /dev/null change from 0666 to 0660. This causes boot errors and the > > > system will not boot. > > > > > > That seemed to me to be a udev error so I looked in: > > > /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules > > > and the mode of null seems correct. > > > > > > Am I looking in the wrong place or what can I do to fix this problem? > > > > > > Its probably pam related. > > look under /etc/security, but I am not sure that's it > > > > check console.perms > > > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > I have a chicken-and-egg problem. My new FC4 system has the > > 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4smp kernel which does not have the uli526x.ko driver needed > > to enable the motherboard's onboard ethernet. So I can't update the system > > via yum quite yet. I found the driver source needed on the ULI website, and > > I read the instructions for compiling new modules in the FC4 release notes. > > > > The ULI doocumentation makes me think I need to specifically recompile the > > kernel to support ULi devices. > > > > However, this module has been in the Fedora kernels since at least the 1637 > > release. Can I just download a new kernel, install it with 'rpm -ivh', > > reboot and get my ethernet running. Then I can do a 'yum update' to > > download/update all the other things. > > > > If this is correct, I'll need just the updated kernel and glibc packages, > > right? Those will satisfy all the dependencies for the moment? > > > > Or would it be easier to compile the module alone and hope the ULI device > > requires no other kernel changes? > > > > Thanks > > > > Bob Cochran > > > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > Robert L. Cochran writes: > > > > > However, this module has been in the Fedora kernels since at least the 1637 > > > release. Can I just download a new kernel, install it with 'rpm -ivh', > > > reboot and get my ethernet running. Then I can do a 'yum update' to > > > download/update all the other things. > > > > 'rpm -ivh' will check for any missing dependencies. If it goes ahead and > > installs the kernel, you're all set. > > > > > If this is correct, I'll need just the updated kernel and glibc packages, > > > right? Those will satisfy all the dependencies for the moment? > > > > Correct. If the new kernel requires a glibc update, install the glibc > > update with rpm -U, then the new kernel with rpm -i. > > > > > Or would it be easier to compile the module alone and hope the ULI device > > > requires no other kernel changes? > > > > Nope, this is much more complicated. > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Dec 2005, Peter Arremann wrote: > > > > > Hmmm... you sure those are pentium-D ? The lowest pentium D that's sold is the > > > D820 which runs at 2.8Ghz... > > > > > > Do you maybe have a Pentium 4 with HyperThreading technology? > > > > I have a pentium 4 with hyperthreading. > > I'm told that it doesn't always play with SMP and an LCD monitor. > > In any case, I've not been able to make the combination work. > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > I just tried to run up2date on my FC4 system and got an error during > > installation: > > > > There was a fatal RPM install error. The message was: > > There was a rpm unpack error installing the package: > > kde-i18n-Polish-3.5.0-0.1.fc4 > > > > I selected the only available option - "OK" and it exited up2date (it didn't > > just abort installing that one package). So I tried to run up2date again > > and it found one new package to download (presumably one that was changed > > during the 2 hours I had been running the previous up2date). It installed > > that new package, but didn't continue installing other downloaded packages > > where it left off. Now I suspect I have a half updated system. Some of the > > packages that were updated no longer work... for example thunderbird no > > longer works. How do I recover from this? > > > > Thanks... > > > > David > > > > > > PS - It seems like I get errors every few times I run up2date... every 6 > > months or so they're bad enough that my install is no longer useful. > > Fortunately that's about how often new releases come out, so I usually just > > install the new release. But I think it's about time I learn whatever magic > > is required to overcome up2date problems. Do I just have bad up2date karma > > or is it as fragile as it seems to me? My computer at work and my computer > > at home are both currently broken wrt up2date. :( > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I am not sure if I posted this question before but I seem to not be > > able to figure out how to get my sony clie to sync with evolution. > > > > I was finally able to get my Sony Clie configured on my desktop > > using the gnome palmosdevices software (Pilot Settings). But when > > it told me to hit the sync button on my device, I would hit it and > > then the entire application would crash. > > > > Error message I get is: > > The Application "gpilotd" has quit unexpectedly. > > You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it. > > Or you can restart the application right now. > > > > Can anyone tell me what I can do to get this to sync or if it will > > sync at all? My settings are as follows: > > > > Pilots Tab: > > Name= Sony > > ID: 500 > > Username=<my username> > > > > Devices Tab: > > Name=Cradle > > Port=/dev/pilot > > Speed=57600 > > Type=USB > > > > Thanks > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > I'm trying to build dmraid but this 'diet' stuff is giving me > > indigestion. I installed dietlibc-lib: > > > > # rpm -qa |grep diet > > dietlibc-0.29-2.fc4 > > dietlibc-lib-0.29-2.fc4 > > > > but still getting a build error: > > > > # rpmbuild --rebuild dmraid-1.0.0.rc9-1.src.rpm > > ..... > > diet gcc -o dmraid dmraid.o commands.o toollib.o -rdynamic -L../lib \ > > -L/var/tmp/dmraid-1.0.0.rc9/lib -ldmraid -ldevmapper_dietc > > -lselinux > > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldevmapper_dietc > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > > make[1]: *** [dmraid] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/dmraid/1.0.0.rc9/tools' > > make: *** [tools] Error 2 > > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.81092 (%build) > > > > > > RPM build errors: > > Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.81092 (%build) > > > > so I'm lost...any help is appreciated. > > -eric wood > > > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > Is there a replacement for Pine on FC4? Alternatives? > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > Devon Harding wrote: > > > Is there a replacement for Pine on FC4? Alternatives? > > > > > > > I use mutt; it's a little different, but most of the functionality that > > I need is there. > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > When I ran 'Yum install pine' I get: > > > > No Match for argument: pine > > Nothing to do > > > > On 12/26/05, Randy Vice <damocles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Devon Harding wrote: > > > > > Is there a replacement for Pine on FC4? Alternatives? > > > > I'm staying with pine for FC4 and on. I installed mine via > > YUM since > > Fedora dropped it. > > > > Randy > > > > -- > > : damocles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx : Bruce Morrow, a man before and > > after his time : > > : "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time > > with the blood : > > : of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson > > 11-13-1787 "Let's roll." : > > : Todd Beamer, American Patriot onboard United Airlines > > Flight 93 9-11-01 : > > : damocles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.thenostromo.com/ : > > > email message attachment > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > I'm purchasing a new notebook. It looks like ATI is about the only display > > choice these days. I see there are driver packages a livna, including > > x86_64. > > > > Anyone with recent experience with ATI on Linux? Works reasonably well? > > Hotkey switching for external display and tv-out supported OK? > > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Hi, I'm running a 3.0Ghz Pentium-D at 3.75Ghz with SMP and x86_64. Runs great except for needing noapic when booting. Otherwise the clocks runs lighting fast. Every thing else is working fine. I'm using kernel 2.6.14-1.1653 that I compile myself to be more optimized and specific to my hardware. Todd