John Kebbel wrote: > My original posting for Re: rmdir when directory is not empty began... > "The man page for rmdir left more questions than it answered." I cropped > that line out of my email so I could get straight to the point. Now that > I know we have a vocal RTFM crowd here, I'll make sure I NEVER again > forget to mention I read the man first. Um. I've never seen any "RTFM" on the list in the sense of "you're an idiot: you should have looked here". It's always been "here's how you find documentation: you might find this useful" and/or "here's the documentation if you want to read up further", or perhaps "here's documentary evidence from something a little more authoritative than some random bloke wibbling on a mailing list". The last point *is* important. For one thing, it's possible that someone might miss something vitally important [1]. There are areas of the Internet where "rm -rf /" is an old joke ("how to manage Xenix", for example). And there's recently been concern that one of the easiest ways for someone to get root on a random Linux box might be to hang out on the appropriate mailing list and give support "suggestions" that don't make it to the list. See http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/164152/4269755b381d07c3/ for example. James. [1] For example, the AIX "support" several years back, while I was away on holiday and the machine had a tape problem. "Support" decided we needed to reload the machine and go back to the old database backup (remember, we'd had tape problems, so that wasn't particularly recent). "Support" couldn't read the first line of the mksysb manpage: Creates an installable image of the root volume group and understand that there might realistically be *more than one* volume group on a machine, and that the database might not be part of the rootvg they'd just restored. I got phoned the night I got back from Paris by my co-workers, just in time to save the database which had been happily sitting on the datavg all the time. -- E-mail address: james | Remember, half-measures can be very effective if @westexe.demon.co.uk | all you deal with are half-wits.