On Sun December 18 2005 8:18 pm, Jon D. Slater wrote: > Any ideas what's up? I doubt this is it, but I'll offer it because I just spent two days fighting the exact same problem on a fresh install of a different distro. The problem - it turned out that NDISwrapper was my culprit. I don't have all the issues fleshed out, yet, but, I throw this out since our similar events are so coincidental. In my case, I had NDISwrapper on my laptop to get my broadcom wireless to be able to use its Windows driver - when I configured it, I had it set to start on boot, and that's what threw it. It spent a huge amount of time trying to start wlan0 and was unable to (for reasons I'm still trying to understand), and that hogged all my system's resources - boot time slowed to about 15 minutes -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA