On Thursday 08 December 2005 22:34, Gilboa Davara wrote: > Eeeek! Not Tomshardware. > In my experience, his views always seemed to follow how-ever advertises > the most on this site. (Which is usually Intel) > > Entry level computing: > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2395 > http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/sempron-3400.html > http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/sempron-3000.html > > Mid level: > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2353 > http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentiumd-820.html > > Performance level: > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2429 > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2456 > http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-fx57.html > http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/28cpu-games.html > > Dual core & servers: > Latest: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6389077-1.html?tag=lnav > Linux: http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=2463 > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2410 > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2397 > http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-x2-3800.html > http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/opteron-ws.html > > > Let me start off by saying, I'm an AMD man. However, I've got enough > experience with the P4/P4 Xeon (including the machine I'm typing this > message on) to be considered objective. > > In the end, I'd say: > > Entry level: > Rather even field. The Sempron64 is faster the Celleron D, but at least > currently, the Celleron is a bit cheaper. > Oh. AMD's 64bit performance is better. > > Mid level: > AMD has (much) better performance; Intel has (at times) lower price. > (See a pattern emerging?) > > Performance level: > AMD. Period. > > Dual core: > The Athlon64 x2 and the Opteron x6x/x7x/x8x are (much) faster then their > P4D and XeonD counter-parts. If you want the best performance, go AMD, > period. > *However*, while much slower, the P4 820D which starts at around 240$ is > a very interesting deal if you looking to go SMP for cheap. (The closest > AMD, the 3800 X2 starts at around 320$) > > As I said, I'm an AMD user. However, if I had to get Intel, I'd get the > 820D or go rock-bottom-cheap and get a Celleron. > I first discovered TomsHardware site in the early 90's. It used to be an in-your-face place that challenged the manufacturers and regularly challenged their claims. Then, success struck. Tom figured out there was money to be made. It pretty much reads like a more elaborate version of PCMag or any of those other 'review' magazines these days, and my visits have become fewer and fewer. I'd say your analysis is pretty spot-on on the thread subject - people will quibble on details, but your conclusions reflect my own experience. That's a nice compendium of links... -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA