Re: Livna Usability Assessment Assessment

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Andy Green wrote:
Robin Laing wrote:


I do agree that rpm is not the best things for installing software due
to dependencies but it would be nice to see a listing of what packages


Well to be clear rpm itself is really good IMO.  Trying to acquire rpms
individually when there is a cluster of dependent ones is what sucks and
perhaps unfairly has the name "rpm Hell".  RPM in combination with a
depsolver like yum is really pretty good!

Better said of what I was thinking.


are available on livna via a web browser.  Yesterday I typed in yum
provides gdb and it took almost an hour to get the results.  This is
only an example but a listing of packages would be nice.

It would give me the option to download the rpm or to enable livna and
then use yum.


If you get stuck with a slow mirror it can take ages.  I just tried it
and it finished in around 1 minute.

Or a slow network or whatever is causing problems today. At home it was very quick.


Sometimes I am looking for something weird and I find an answer on
Google but it doesn't help if I cannot find the package.  Livna may have
the package but I cannot do a simple search of the site to know.


Yep.


How about a link from the package that opens a download page that
explains the benefits of Yum over straight rpm.  Including links to the
various setup files and a howto to setup and user yum for noobs.


I think up2date is still exerting a confusing influence over people new
to Fedora.  Hopefully soon enough something with a similar UI based on
"yum inside" will replace it and the Add/Remove packages app and the
confusion will go away.

-Andy


I got rid of up2date while still using FC1 as I couldn't stand that stupid flashing icon on the desktop. I use yumex (in extras) as a package manager as it give me more control than just "yum update all" I can see what packages and quickly read the description to see if I should think about deleting it instead.


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