Andy Green wrote:
Robin Laing wrote:
I do agree that rpm is not the best things for installing software due
to dependencies but it would be nice to see a listing of what packages
Well to be clear rpm itself is really good IMO. Trying to acquire rpms
individually when there is a cluster of dependent ones is what sucks and
perhaps unfairly has the name "rpm Hell". RPM in combination with a
depsolver like yum is really pretty good!
Better said of what I was thinking.
are available on livna via a web browser. Yesterday I typed in yum
provides gdb and it took almost an hour to get the results. This is
only an example but a listing of packages would be nice.
It would give me the option to download the rpm or to enable livna and
then use yum.
If you get stuck with a slow mirror it can take ages. I just tried it
and it finished in around 1 minute.
Or a slow network or whatever is causing problems today. At home it
was very quick.
Sometimes I am looking for something weird and I find an answer on
Google but it doesn't help if I cannot find the package. Livna may have
the package but I cannot do a simple search of the site to know.
Yep.
How about a link from the package that opens a download page that
explains the benefits of Yum over straight rpm. Including links to the
various setup files and a howto to setup and user yum for noobs.
I think up2date is still exerting a confusing influence over people new
to Fedora. Hopefully soon enough something with a similar UI based on
"yum inside" will replace it and the Add/Remove packages app and the
confusion will go away.
-Andy
I got rid of up2date while still using FC1 as I couldn't stand that
stupid flashing icon on the desktop. I use yumex (in extras) as a
package manager as it give me more control than just "yum update all"
I can see what packages and quickly read the description to see if I
should think about deleting it instead.
