On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:58 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Sorry for jumping in, I did not follow this thread closely. > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.11.2005, 16:59 +1030 schrieb David Abbott: > > [description how to rebuild the srpm] <snip...> > > Uhh, and why don't you simply download the precompiled RPMs? [description of enableing livna repo with Livna fedora-release RPM] > > And if they don't work for you please file a bug at bugzilla.livna.org. > By doing that and help fixing the problems everyone has a benefit of it. > > > When you upgrade the kernel, follow the same rebuild process. > > Or wait 24 hours after a updated kernel is released -- we normally have > updated rpms by that time. We are working on improving that and make the > update process automatic with yum in the future. Thorsten, I know you guys try hard and I am a dedicated Livna user. I also agree that the general user running updates can keep up pretty well with just the pre-comiled RPMs. Unfortunately, my experience has been that, while sometimes it's less than 24 hours, there have been times when it's been quite a bit longer (several days, a week or more). And, in this particular case, the David was having trouble with both the non-presence (at the time) of the pre-compiled RPMs he needed and dealing with the problems created by installing via the NVidia provided script (the one that breaks Mesa & other stuff). I'm not sure you really want people filing Bugzilla tickets every time your team misses the intended deadline. If you do, let us know. As I mentioned, in general, I think you guys do a great job. Perhaps the solution is more timely communication and a little re-org on the Livna site to make it easier for people to find what they're looking for. I'd be happy to help with that part as I have two very strong usability consultants I work with who will give me pointers for Livna.org if I frame the question the right way (one of them is a very passionate French guy... <smile>). Cheers, Chris Williams -- ====================== "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -- Albert Einstein