Yes, I understand that we are the apes or monkeys or whatever that uses knuckles instead of feet to walk :-) I went to bed at 4AM (was up at 7am on this project) and discovered that it may be a no-no to choose 'everything' when choosing the installation of software because I discovered why I was not able to yum update. Turns out that installing everything also includes things like GFP-kernel, gnbd-kernel, cman-1.0 and so forth that as it turns out that updates fail because there are dependenencies which I cannot remove or update - specifically the cman-1.0-0.pre33.i386 of which a scriptlet (%preun) refuses to remove cman due to a "failure". I tried everything I could to remove it - and failed. It appears that there are too many 'gotchas' in FC4 release. In FC3 I chosed 'everything' and to my knowledge did not run into any known problems. Guess this is not the case with FC4. So - today - I will format the disk and start over with FC4 and chose the workstation-defaults installation and select the software that I want, manually and avoid things like 'cluster' software and others that caused my update problem. BTW I was able to run Yum from within the Fedora Rescue steps and there was a step for setting up Network Parameters before continuing to the chroot /mnt/sysimage step. My negative about this mode is that seem there are no means to interupt a running program once started such as 'find' or if Yum hangs; you are forced to reboot and get back to rescue mode again and pick up the slack where you left off. So far, working with FC4 as it is has been a royal pain in the a** and I can understand it is not for the faint of heart. Dan -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Andy Green Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:29 AM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Re: FC4 does not work, "out of the box" for me; GUI/X11 fails Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Seems that whomever released this distro should throw away > the iso cds and create a BRAND NEW ONE. This distro is very http://fedora.isphuset.no/ Don't forget... although we are the monkeys that get experimented on, we get a chance to test and report first... some of the problems are coming from our lack of effort to find the problems first... -Andy -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005