>Tim wrote: >> On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:25 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: >> >> >>>I respond that with tab completion, navagating trees or anything is >>>still allot easier than any GUI I have tried. Tab completion can >even >>>help when I get confused as it will give me a list of possible names. >> >> >> Using both methods, a lot, I find keyboarding around a significant >pain. >> Type a few letters, hit tab, type a few more, hit tab, type a few >more, >> hit tab, trying to get the right one out of various files or >directories >> that start with similar characters. It does you no good in a folder >> with a few hundred images all named something hideous like >> photo_012335234.jpeg. >> >> >>>If I am doing various things from the CLI, I can use the arrow keys >>>and get back to previous command via history. >> >> >> Again, up, up, up, up, up, edit, is more work than selecting any >bunch >> of displayed files, then dragging them to the next window, or hitting >> some function button. Even more so when you keep repeating the task. >> And, no, I'm yet to find any situation where you could script that, >> because you've got a lot of changing variables each time you do it >> (different sources, different destinations, simply a copy, a move, a >> rename as well...). >> >> >>>I have tried many different file managers and I still end up moving >>>back to the CLI for what I do. >> >> >> I've tried quite a few, and I nearly always end up using the CLI on >> Linux *because* the GUIs on it just plain suck. Prime example, >> Nautilus. They all look like a young software writer has had a go at >> making a file *browser*, not manager, added a few bells and whistles, >> then gave up. >> >> >>>And Opus looks like Nautilus. >> >> >> It's nothing like it. Nautilus is just plain crap, almost as bad as >> Explorer. Slow, and with very limited features. It's nothing more >than >> a file browser, really. >>> >>> For those not familiar with DOpus, a slightly closer equivalent might >>>be >>> Midnight Commander. But even Midnight Commander is poorly featured, >>in >>> comparison, and the TUI version is a hideous DOS-like throwback. >>> >>> I'm only picking on DOpus, by the way of example. It's a GUI tool >>that >>> does all the bells and whistles that any die hard CLI fan will do >>when >>> managing files, it's configurable up to the hilt, but still simple to >>> use. I only wish there was a Linux version of it, but the author's >>not >>> about to spend time on that as there's no money in it. >>> >> >>>The last graphical file manager that I liked was Windows 3.11 file >>manager. >> >>I have not run into the problems that you have. I guess I have used >>term for so many years to manage servers that I don't think about >>typing. I find that the time to type a few letters is less than >>scrolling down a few pages of icons of graphics to find that list of >>files I am looking for. The last time I tried to use any file >manager, midnight commander included, I was frustrated by the time it >took to complete my tasks. > >Don't get me wrong, there are times I like a GUI tools but I guess I >just haven't found one that is fast enough for the work that I do. I >also am pretty good at touch typing as I learned this in school in the >days before electric typewriters :) > >Allot of tools I use, I don't know of any GUI for them. Of course I >have not looked for any as they may only be plugins for some GUI file >manager. Things like rar and unrar. > >As I said, some like the GUI, others don't but to each their own. >Some like Windows and others don't. >-- >Robin Laing =I apologize to jump like this in the middle of this discussion. Personally I find CLI extremly usefull and I cannot imagine this world without it :). On the other hand I have to agree I felt the need of better GUIs under linux. I saw recently a windows software with a nice GUI made only for renaming files. I found this hilarious cause under linux CLI I can do that with no problems and I can do it in more than one single way. Anyway, like I said before, I do feel the need of a good GUI under linux sometimes. I have used midnight commander and I found it useful. Under X I'm using FileRunner (http://www.cd.chalmers.se/~hch/filerunner.html). Any other suggestions for nice GUIs under linux? Valentin __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
