Les Mikesell wrote: > I'm not being dogmatic about it being better, I'm being dogmatic > about no one else being able to help with additional problems > on an upgraded machine because no one will know which bits are > left over from the previous version. You seem to misunderstand. I'm not asking for your (or anyone's) help. This particular machine - with an Asus P2B-LS motherboard - has been running without any problems, 24/7, for 5 or 6 years. [Well, the disk seemed sick once, so I changed it.] I'm simply pointing out that this machine _does not boot_ if I do a clean install. I hope I have explained the exact reason for this, namely, mkinitrd does not install the correct SCSI driver. My deduction from this is that it is not true that a clean installation is _always_ better than an upgrade. Something that does not work cannot be better than something that does. > Some bugs aren't found until someone tries the combination of things > that the program gets wrong. Reporting your lspci output and the > module that is wrongly installed is probably the best you can do > along with using whatever means you can to work around the bug. Sigh. The machine does not run if I do a clean install, so I cannot "report my lspci output". The machine runs perfectly when I compile the kernel (with scsi compiled in it rather than a module) so there is no point in reporting my lspci output. But here it is if you want to see it. ============================================ [tim@alfred ~]$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:04.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:04.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:04.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:04.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 00:06.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940U2/U2W / 7890/7891 00:07.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 05) 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 02) 00:0a.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02) 00:0b.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 01) 00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Platform Technologies, Inc. AGOGO sound chip (aka ESS Maestro 1) (rev 10) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 11) ============================================ -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland