On Tuesday 12 July 2005 23:07, Don Dupy wrote: >Hmmmm........... >Have you ever heard of the two words "back up" ? > >I back everything up before upgrading or doing a fresh install. >I had no issues with my home desktop machine >I did have an issue with my laptop. It upgraded ok......... >I had to rebuild a couple of things that would run with the new > kernel, everything was fine. Then all of a sudden....... X quit > working, and it would not even boot in a low level. The rescue CD > didn't do me a bit of good.......... > >Well.......(since I had things backed up)...... I just did a fresh >install. > >Everything is happy now. Yes, it is more time consuming, but well > worth the effort as I learned........... > >-- >Don Dupy Well, I've just come upstairs in defeat, defeated by FC4. I'd asked previously how to get the kde kicker back after yum had updated some of kde, which resulted in the kicker crashing on startup. And each time that portion of my posting was ignored, even when I stripped it down and left ONLY that question. So I re-installed, thinking it would check and see what was broken, but only mozilla was down-dated. So I installed the whole thing, 3rd pass. It got to /dev/hda3 and claimed it was busy and couldn't do the install, tried 3 times until the missus said it was time for dinner, at Sully's... Shut it off & left. After dinner, fired it back up & started an install, doing it 2 more times from the first cd on, each time telling it to autopartition /dev/hda only, which worked rather nicely the first time. Each time I got to it, I assigned a hostname & address on my local network for eth0. Using ipv4 syntax, as in 192.168.x.x etc. Setting gateway etc exactly as its set for the other 2 machines here. 3 more installs later I still don't have a usable x-server like I had with the first install, seems the nv driver doesn't support 32 bit, nor 1600x1200 screens, suddenly??. And x-server problems notwithstanding, the last two installs have set eth0 up with only an ipv6 style address, and of course I have no networking. yum of course loves that... All this worked flawlessly except for having to run a card fully capable of 32 bit color in 1600x1200 24 bit mode, on the first install 2 weeks ago. About the only thing that got quasi-fixed was that now, its actually booting from /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/hdb1. So now, my emc install on /dev/hdb is inaccessable until I mount /dev/hdb1 and copy all the stuff back, probably editing as I go. This forum, with all due respect, seems to be only a place to post ones grips, letting the user vent. But as far as actually getting a message that there is something wrong, TO THE PERSON WHO IS FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THE AREA IN QUESTION THAT AN ANSWER MIGHT BE SUPPLIED, IS OBVIOUSLY NOT POSSIBLE UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO HACK AT BUGZILLA UNTIL IT FINALLY ACCEPTS A BROKEN, PIDGEON ENGLISH VERSION OF THE PROBLEM. And we get the impression its intended to be that way because redhat/fedora doesn't really want to fix problems when there is this kewl new project to work on that we don't even know the name of yet... Sarcasm intended. Redhat/Fedora needs to assign some folks to monitor this list for say 6 to 8 weeks after a release, who can actually deduce whats wrong from postings to this list, or bring it to the attention of someone who can, and not route it to the internal /dev/bitbucket in the back of the server closet where problems never make it to the right people who can fix them. Thats not how to win friends and influence people whom you would like at some point, to sell a $700 RHEL package to. 98% of us you never will, but you should try to impress, not frustrate folks further by sending them to bugzilla where they get caught in an endless loop of searching for their problem without ever finding it or getting to the bug data entry screen. Been there, done that, probably 3 dozen times all told, but only managed to get lucky and get at the edit screen twice, maybe 3 times in 5 plus years. By then I'm usually so frustrated with it I can't even remember my name, so you get a piss-poor report missing 90% of the details. Now, does anyone know how I can make an ifconfig of eth0 show an ipv4 style address AND get a working network? Or should I go do a 7th "everything" install? If thats the case, it WON'T be FC4. FWIW, I even tried to do a 'service network restart' after checking the eth0 files, but even that doesn't work, kmalloc says it cannot allocate 4GB (round figure of course) of memory. Yes, thats right, a 'service network restart' is asking for 4GB of memory. FC4 is not ready, even for alpha testing, at least at this users location. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.35% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
