On Monday, Jul 11th 2005 at 19:39 -0400, quoth Steven W. Orr: =>The problems with it are a mile long and I'm very disappointed that I upgraded =>my home machine. => =>* I run Majordomo2 which is a great mailinglist manager. Not all my => mail is getting delivered and I'm getting messages with blank => bodies. No one else seems to be having this problem. I'm not sure => what I can do now. It could be perl, or worse, it could be gcc => which was used to build perl. => =>* I have a Palm IIIc connected on a serial port. pilot-link woks ok => but all software that uses pilot-link (jpilot, kpilot, gnome-pilot) => are all unable to connect to the device. No one knows why. I => suspect gcc. => =>* I have a Dell Dimension 4700 at work. The upgrade went fine from => Core 3 to 4. Afterwards, I went to start X and it failed. The => xorg.conf file was identical both before and after the upgrade, => including after running system-config-display --configure. The fix, => after a team of people poured 6 hours into it was to not use the => VESA driver that it used before. The correct choice is to use the => i810 driver. The writeup for it is here: => https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=162699 I never thought this discussion would get as far out of control as it did. All I wanted to do was to suggest to those who needed the suggestion that things just might not be as stable as my expectation. Thanks go to all the people who interpreted my message in the correct tone. The problem with majordomo was fixed 20 minutes after my rant by the mj2 developer. One thing that should be made clear is that the problem was not with majordomo. The problem was with Majordomo2. Mj2 is a total rewrite and has no relationship to the old majordomo that has seen no action for about 7 years. The problem with the palm is being looked at and I can survive until a solution is found. It seems that the problem happens on FC4 machines exclusively. I now return you to your normal flow of infotrons. -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net