On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 11:27:00 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: > At 12:36 AM -0400 7/9/05, Amadeus W. M. wrote: >>On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:43:30 -0700, Rashan Jibowu wrote: > ... >>> Can someone please help? How can I get the programs >>> under "System Settings" to work again? >>> >> >>I've had similar problems. After fresh installation I think I was able to >>configure everything from the gui config tools, then I noticed >>system-config-network won't write out the files properly, nor would >>system-config-securitylevel. Probably others too. Luckily I've been using >>RedHat since 5.0, and I can do all that at the prompt, but I feel sorry >>for the new people. >> >>Maybe on other people's systems it works fine, but based on my own >>experience, without a doubt FC4 is the buggiest release I've ever seen. >>And, again, I've seen since 5.0 every single day. >> >>Other than that it's fine. :) > > I would hazard a guess that many such issues stem from SELinux. Have you > tried booting with kernel parameter "enforcing=0", and does that help > either of you? > > SELinux seems to need all the details right, but when they aren't, the > resulting malfunctions are obscure. Since everyone will never be trained > to look in the logs each time, I think there should be an SELinux screamer > widget like the Up2Date one in the Toolbar (though it -- both of them -- > should actually work reliably). The SELinux one should have an icon for > denials; clicking on that should show what it just denied (or maybe the > last few (recent) things denied), with an explanation that the denial might > be a good thing, or a bad thing, but that in any case it happened, and that > icon should appear immediately upon a denial. It should also have icons > for other situations, such as that a recently installed update requires a > reboot for proper functioning, or that an SELinux update is available. In > general, Up2Date is a good model for behavior, though perhaps not for > implementation. ;) > ____________________________________________________________________ > TonyN.:' <mailto:tonynelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/> Excellent! All grief is gone. For now. I don't understand very well what happened, I had selinux on permissive (or whatever most lax security policy it's called). I thought that was equivalent to not having selinux at all. Probably my ignorance.