I just installed FC4 on a tyan k8e (nforce4 w. tigon-3 ethernet). Not only is the nvidia-MAC/marvell 88E1111-CAA PHY inoperative, but the Broadcom BCM5721 (tigon3) is too. They show up as eth0 and eth1 but neither show any rx or tx packets in ifconfig. A linksys EG1032 (syskonnect) pci card works temporary work around, but it is kind of sad that this mobo has two on-board ethernets and neither work with the default config. Is there some standard work around I should try to get the either of the ethernets working? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/