>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams <colin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Colin> There WAS a slightly older version of the 2.6.9 smp kernel Colin> installed (two versions in all - no UP kernel), and the FC4 Colin> smp kernel had been written to disk. Colin> I physically deleted (I can't boot my FC3 kernel fully at Colin> the moment - it hangs somewhere in the system tasks startup Colin> phase, so I could do any rpm -e commands) the FC4 kernel Colin> and the redundant FC3 kernel from disk. Colin> This time the install proceeds, not attempting to install Colin> the kernel at all - so I think what must have been Colin> happening was it was trying to upgrade the kernel twice (is Colin> that likely)? So I suspect I shall end up without a 2.6.11 Colin> kernel installed. This indeed seems to have been the case. I was ALMOST able to complete the install. The process hung with remaining time at two minutes, whilst attempting to install (or having just completed) fonts-xorg-truetype. But now I was able to reboot with the FC3 kernel sucessfully, and do an rpm -e nodeps on two kernel-smp packages marked as installed (one was the FC4 kernel, another was an older 2.6.9 kernel) but not physically present. Then I rebooted the FC4 Install option (i.e. I restarted the upgrade process), and kernel-smp, firefox, fonts-xorg-truetype, and a handfull of tiny packages, were all upgraded, and the post-installation now ran sucessfully. So my conclusion from all this, is that before I upgrade my production system, I should ensure that rpm -q kernel-smp shows only one entry, that of the current running kernel. When I login to GNOME, I get a dialog box displaying an error message: No volume control elements and/or <something - I can't read my scribble> found. What does this mean? Is it harmless? How can I make it go away for next time I login? -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire